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         <title>Superhacker Max Butler Pleads Guilty</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/06/maxraybutler.jpg"><img title="maxraybutler" src="http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/06/maxraybutler.jpg" alt="maxraybutler" width="322" height="420"></a>PITTSBURGH  A skilled San Francisco-based computer hacker who once sought to unite the cyber underworld under his benign rule pleaded guilty to federal wire fraud charges here Monday, admitting he stole nearly 2 million credit card numbers from banks, businesses and other hackers, which were used to rack up $86 million in fraudulent charges.</p>
<p>Max Ray Butler, 36, faces up to 60 years in prison for the two felonies under law, but his actual sentence will be influenced by a number of factors, not least a plea agreement with federal prosecutors that was filed under seal Monday.</p>
<p>Wearing an ill-fitting orange jail uniform and round glasses, his hair cut short and neat, the six-foot-plus Butler towered over the burly deputy marshals that brought him into the court room.  Once he settled into his seat, he spoke softly and evenly as he answered questions from the judge, frequently drawing admonishments to speak up for the benefit of the court reporter.</p>
<p>I actually did the actions that are relevant in the indictment, and I am guilty, Butler said, at one point.</p>
<p>Butler identified himself in court as Max Vision, the name he gave himself in the 1990s when he became a superstar in the computer security community.  At that time Butler was billing himself out as a $100-an-hour computer security consultant, and he earned the respect of his peers for creating and curating an open source library of attack signatures used to detect computer intrusions.</p>
<p>But it turned out Butler was staging recreational hacks on the side, and in 2001 he was sent to federal prison for 18 months for launching a scripted attack that closed security holes on thousands on Pentagon systems, and left backdoors behind for his own use.</p>
<p>While in prison, Butler met more serious criminals, and he was befriended by a professional swindler named Jeffrey Norminton. After his release, Norminton introduced him to an Orange County, California entrepreneur and former bank robber named Chris Aragon.</p>
<p>Butler admitted Monday that he began hacking banks, merchants and other hackers to steal credit card numbers, then sold them to Aragon. Aragon, who's pending trial on related state charges in southern California, turned that stolen data into near-perfect counterfeit cards, complete with holograms, and recruited a crew of shoppers who used the cards to snap up designer merchandise for resale on eBay. Aragon earned at least $1 million in the business, police say.</p>
<p>Butler became a priority to federal law enforcement officials in 2006, when, under the handle Iceman, he staged a <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler">brazen takeover</a> of the online carder forums where hackers and fraudsters buy and sell stolen data, fake IDs and specialized underground services.</p>
<p>He hacked into the forums, wiped out their databases, and absorbed their content and membership into his own site, called CardersMarket.<br>
<span></span></p>
<p>On one of the sites he hacked, called DarkMarket, Butler later discovered that an administrator named Master Splyntr was logging in from an FBI office in Pittsburgh. Butler partnered with a Canadian hacker to try and expose Master Splyntr as a fed, but his claim was largely dismissed in the underground as inter-forum rivalry.  DarkMarket went on to become a <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/darkmarket-post/">full-blown undercover FBI operation</a>, and the FBI and Secret Service began an investigation into Iceman.</p>
<p>(I wrote about <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler"> Butler in the January</a> issue of Wired. I'm now working on a book about him and the carder forums for Crown publishing).</p>
<p>Using informants and some genuine electronic gumshoe work, the feds identified Iceman as Butler about a year later, and arrested him in September 2007 at a corporate apartment he used as a hacking safe house.</p>
<p>When the feds seized Butler's hard drive, they found five terabytes of encrypted data on his harddrive, the government said Monday. They later cracked Butler's crypto, and discovered 1.8 million stolen credit card numbers belonging to 1,000  different banks. The banks tallied the fraudulent charges on the cards at $86.4 million.</p>
<p>But Butler's defense attorney told U.S. District Judge Maurice B. Cohill Jr. Monday that Butler and his associates weren't' responsible for all of the fraudulent charges.</p>
<p>Butler, noted federal public defender, Michael Novara, frequently cracked the computers of other members of the underground, and stole their stuff. Some of the credit card numbers found on Butler's hard drive had been in the hands of cyber thieves before Butler began his hacking spree.</p>
<p>Max is kind of a hacker's hacker, said Novara. There was a lot of stuff on his computer that he was not responsible for, and did not intend to use.</p>
<p>I don't think I ever heard the expression, a hacker's hacker' before, said Judge Cohill, with a smile.</p>
<p>Sources say Butler's plea deal will also wrap up a separate federal case in Virginia, in which Butler is charged with staging the first documented spear phishing attack against employees of a financial institution, gaining access to the corporate network of Capitol One bank.</p>
<p>Butler was calm and attentive at Monday's proceeding, which opened with federal prosecutor Luke Dembosky crossing to the defense table to shake hands with the hacker, who smiled and nodded.</p>
<p>Through his attorney, Butler released a two-paragraph statement following his plea.</p>
<p>Max Vision, known in this case as Max Butler, pled guilty today as a first step toward getting this sad chapter of his life behind him. It is unfortunate that his life circumstances in 2005 led him to participate in this criminal conduct, and he very much regrets doing so, he wrote.</p>
<p>Max has always preferred using his extraordinary computer skills  his computer vision  for the good of society and the cyber world, and he hopes that he will be given the opportunity in the future to once again don the white hat.</p>
<p>Asked afterward what kind of sentence the government expects for Butler, Dembosky was vague with reporters. Suffice to say, it won't be probation.</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/09/notorious-crime/">Notorious Crime Forum DarkMarket Goes Dark</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/darkmarket-post/">Cybercrime Supersite DarkMarket' Was FBI Sting, Documents Confirm</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/56-arrested-in/">56 Arrested in DarkMarket Sting, Says FBI</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler">One Hacker's Audacious Plan to Rule the Black Market in Stolen Credit Cards</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/05/44007">A White Hat' Goes to Jail</a></li>
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<p>Max Ray Butler, 36, faces up to 60 years in prison for the two felonies under law, but his actual sentence will be influenced by a number of factors, not least a plea agreement with federal prosecutors that was filed under seal Monday.</p>
<p>Wearing an ill-fitting orange jail uniform and round glasses, his hair cut short and neat, the six-foot-plus Butler towered over the burly deputy marshals that brought him into the court room.  Once he settled into his seat, he spoke softly and evenly as he answered questions from the judge, frequently drawing admonishments to speak up for the benefit of the court reporter.</p>
<p>I actually did the actions that are relevant in the indictment, and I am guilty, Butler said, at one point.</p>
<p>Butler identified himself in court as Max Vision, the name he gave himself in the 1990s when he became a superstar in the computer security community.  At that time Butler was billing himself out as a $100-an-hour computer security consultant, and he earned the respect of his peers for creating and curating an open source library of attack signatures used to detect computer intrusions.</p>
<p>But it turned out Butler was staging recreational hacks on the side, and in 2001 he was sent to federal prison for 18 months for launching a scripted attack that closed security holes on thousands on Pentagon systems, and left backdoors behind for his own use.</p>
<p>While in prison, Butler met more serious criminals, and he was befriended by a professional swindler named Jeffrey Norminton. After his release, Norminton introduced him to an Orange County, California entrepreneur and former bank robber named Chris Aragon.</p>
<p>Butler admitted Monday that he began hacking banks, merchants and other hackers to steal credit card numbers, then sold them to Aragon. Aragon, who's pending trial on related state charges in southern California, turned that stolen data into near-perfect counterfeit cards, complete with holograms, and recruited a crew of shoppers who used the cards to snap up designer merchandise for resale on eBay. Aragon earned at least $1 million in the business, police say.</p>
<p>Butler became a priority to federal law enforcement officials in 2006, when, under the handle Iceman, he staged a <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler">brazen takeover</a> of the online carder forums where hackers and fraudsters buy and sell stolen data, fake IDs and specialized underground services.</p>
<p>He hacked into the forums, wiped out their databases, and absorbed their content and membership into his own site, called CardersMarket.<br>
<span></span></p>
<p>On one of the sites he hacked, called DarkMarket, Butler later discovered that an administrator named Master Splyntr was logging in from an FBI office in Pittsburgh. Butler partnered with a Canadian hacker to try and expose Master Splyntr as a fed, but his claim was largely dismissed in the underground as inter-forum rivalry.  DarkMarket went on to become a <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/darkmarket-post/">full-blown undercover FBI operation</a>, and the FBI and Secret Service began an investigation into Iceman.</p>
<p>(I wrote about <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler"> Butler in the January</a> issue of Wired. I'm now working on a book about him and the carder forums for Crown publishing).</p>
<p>Using informants and some genuine electronic gumshoe work, the feds identified Iceman as Butler about a year later, and arrested him in September 2007 at a corporate apartment he used as a hacking safe house.</p>
<p>When the feds seized Butler's hard drive, they found five terabytes of encrypted data on his harddrive, the government said Monday. They later cracked Butler's crypto, and discovered 1.8 million stolen credit card numbers belonging to 1,000  different banks. The banks tallied the fraudulent charges on the cards at $86.4 million.</p>
<p>But Butler's defense attorney told U.S. District Judge Maurice B. Cohill Jr. Monday that Butler and his associates weren't' responsible for all of the fraudulent charges.</p>
<p>Butler, noted federal public defender, Michael Novara, frequently cracked the computers of other members of the underground, and stole their stuff. Some of the credit card numbers found on Butler's hard drive had been in the hands of cyber thieves before Butler began his hacking spree.</p>
<p>Max is kind of a hacker's hacker, said Novara. There was a lot of stuff on his computer that he was not responsible for, and did not intend to use.</p>
<p>I don't think I ever heard the expression, a hacker's hacker' before, said Judge Cohill, with a smile.</p>
<p>Sources say Butler's plea deal will also wrap up a separate federal case in Virginia, in which Butler is charged with staging the first documented spear phishing attack against employees of a financial institution, gaining access to the corporate network of Capitol One bank.</p>
<p>Butler was calm and attentive at Monday's proceeding, which opened with federal prosecutor Luke Dembosky crossing to the defense table to shake hands with the hacker, who smiled and nodded.</p>
<p>Through his attorney, Butler released a two-paragraph statement following his plea.</p>
<p>Max Vision, known in this case as Max Butler, pled guilty today as a first step toward getting this sad chapter of his life behind him. It is unfortunate that his life circumstances in 2005 led him to participate in this criminal conduct, and he very much regrets doing so, he wrote.</p>
<p>Max has always preferred using his extraordinary computer skills  his computer vision  for the good of society and the cyber world, and he hopes that he will be given the opportunity in the future to once again don the white hat.</p>
<p>Asked afterward what kind of sentence the government expects for Butler, Dembosky was vague with reporters. Suffice to say, it won't be probation.</p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/09/notorious-crime/">Notorious Crime Forum DarkMarket Goes Dark</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/darkmarket-post/">Cybercrime Supersite DarkMarket' Was FBI Sting, Documents Confirm</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/56-arrested-in/">56 Arrested in DarkMarket Sting, Says FBI</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-01/ff_max_butler">One Hacker's Audacious Plan to Rule the Black Market in Stolen Credit Cards</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/05/44007">A White Hat' Goes to Jail</a></li>
</ul>
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         <title>Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie [Transformers 2 Review]</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-bigpi.jpg" width="800" height="352" style="display:block;float:none"> Critical consensus on <em><a title="Click here to read more posts tagged TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN" href="http://io9.com/tag/transformers%7c-revenge-of-the-fallen/">Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen</a></em> is overwhelmingly negative. But the critics are wrong. <a title="Click here to read more posts tagged MICHAEL BAY" href="http://io9.com/tag/michael-bay/">Michael Bay</a> used a squillion dollars and a hundred supercomputers' worth of CG for a brilliant art movie about the illusory nature of plot.</p> <p>Oh, and I would warn you that there&#39;ll be spoilers in this review  except that, really, since I still have no idea what actually happened in this movie, I&#39;m not sure how much I can spoil it.</p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-4.jpg" width="484" height="343" style="display:block">Since the days of <em>Un Chien Andalou</em> and <em><a title="Click here to read more posts tagged THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI" href="http://io9.com/tag/the-cabinet-of-dr%27-caligari/">The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari</a></em>, filmmakers have reached beyond meaning. But with this summer's biggest, loudest movie, Michael Bay takes us all the way inside Caligari's cabinet. And once you enter, you can never emerge again. I saw this movie two days ago, and I'm still living inside it. Things are exploding wherever I look, household appliances are trying to kill me, and bizarre racial stereotypes are shouting at me.</p> <p><em><a title="Click here to read more posts tagged TRANSFORMERS: ROTF" href="http://io9.com/tag/transformers%7c-rotf/">Transformers: ROTF</a></em> has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense. It's an assault on the senses, a barrage of crazy imagery. Imagine that you went back in time to the late 1960s and found Terry Gilliam, fresh from doing his weird low-fi collage/animations for Monty Python. You proceeded to inject Gilliam with so many steroids his penis shrank to the size of a hair follicle, and you smushed a dozen tabs of LSD under his tongue. And then you gave him the GDP of a few sub-Saharan countries. Gilliam might have made a movie not unlike this one.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-11.jpg" width="800" height="330" style="display:block;float:none"></p> <p>And the true genius of <em>Transformers: ROTF</em> is that Bay has put all of this excess of imagery and random ideas at the service of the most pandering movie genre there is: the summer movie. <em>ROTF</em> is like twenty summer movies, with unrelated storylines, smushed together into one crazy whole. You try in vain to understand how the pieces fit, you stare into the cracks between the narrative strands, until the cracks become chasms and the chasms become an abyss into which you stare until it looks deep into your own soul, and then you go insane. You. Do. Not. Leave. The Cabinet.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-of2.jpg" width="484" height="307" style="display:block">Michael Bay understands that summer movies are about two things: male anxiety, and pure id. That's why he casts Shia LaBoeuf, that supreme avatar of pure male inadequacy, in the lead role. LaBoeuf projects a pathetic, wall-eyed dorkhood, when he's not babbling like a tumor removed from Woody Allen's prostate that somehow achieved sentience. I imagine the DVD of <em>ROTF</em> will include a whole disk of outtakes where they had to stop filming because LaBoeuf was drooling on camera. As it is, the film includes several extreme closeups of LaBoeuf's dazed stare.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-19.jpg" width="484" height="278" style="display:block">Where was I? Oh yes. So LaBoeuf, who's actually a fine actor, is the stand-in for the male viewers' greatest fears about themselves. No matter how great a loser they might be, they can't be as losery a loser as Sam Witwicky. And yet, Sam has awesome giant robots stomping around telling him he's the most important awesome person ever. And he has the hottest girlfriend in the universe, Megan Fox, for whom banality is a huge aphrodisiac. The more pathetic Sam gets, the more Fox's lips pout and her nipples point, like little Irish setters.</p> <p>To make matters more awesome for the insecure males in the audience, Sam actually tosses aside his giant robot fanclub and his walking-pinup girlfriend, so he can have a normal life. Of course, this only leads to other robots and hawt chicks (who turn out to be robots too) throwing themselves at him and telling him how important he is. In the end, everybody learns to appreciate Sam just a bit more than they already did, and a booming voice tells him he's earned the "matrix of leadership" through his courage and stuff.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-15.jpg" width="484" height="310" style="display:block">And then there's the "id" part, which is the part where stuff blows up real good, and huge machines smash each other up. And every single performance is so ridiculous that it looks down on "over the top" as if from a great height. It's the part of your brain that thinks it would be awesome to see robots with giant dangling testicles, or hot chicks turning into robot tentacle monsters, or "ghetto" robots that talk in inept hip-hop slang and smash each other playfully, or funny Jewish men who talk about their "schmear" and randomly strip to their G-strings. Is that going too far? Then let's go 100 times farther than that and see what happens!</p> <p><em>Transformers: ROTF</em> is so long, you'll need to wear adult diapers to it. But the movie's pure celebration of the primal urge, and unfiltered living, will make you rejoice in your adult diapers. You'll relieve yourself in your seat with a savage joy, your barbaric yawp blending in with the crowd's screams of excitement.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-14.jpg" width="484" height="322" style="display:block">And yet  and here&#39;s the part where I really think <em>ROTF</em> approaches &quot;art movie&quot; status  the movie&#39;s id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.</p> <p>The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' <em>Speed Racer</em>, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-5.jpg" width="484" height="327" style="display:block">And around hour six of <em>ROTF</em>, something curious happens: the two components  male enhancement and pure id  start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like tits and ass: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up <u>everything in the world</u>. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.</p> <p>So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality  but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There&#39;s no such thing as the &quot;real world,&quot; and the only thing that&#39;s left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you&#39;re drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge13.jpg" width="484" height="251" style="display:block">So yes, <em>ROTF</em> approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.</p> <p>So I've gotten almost all the way through this review, and I still haven't summarized the movie's plot. Here goes. It's a couple years after the first movie, and Sam is going off to college, leaving his transforming car and his hot girlfriend, whom he still hasn't told he loves her. And meanwhile, the soldiers from the first movie are running around with a bunch of late-model GM cars and trucks, which turn into robots and fight other robots sometimes. Sam sees weird symbols which make no sense (and they still make no sense at the end of the movie) and they turn out to be the key to the location of a thing that can control another thing, that will enable the bad guys to destroy the sun. Sam has to embrace the heroic destiny he's rejected, so he can save us all from solarcide.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-8.jpg" width="484" height="255" style="display:block">But that bare plot summary doesn't include the twenty or thirty other storylines that could also claim to be the movie's plot. There's the whole thing where someone from Washington D.C. wonders why the U.S. military is running around the globe with a bunch of late-model GM cars from outer space, and tries to put the kibosh on the military-Autobot complex. There's the teenager who's got a conspiracy website, that competes with another conpsiracy website which turns out to be the work of a secret agent who's decided that the best way to keep things secret is to put them on a website. (It works. I post secret stuff on io9 all the time.) Various robots die and then come back to life, and there's a whole strand about whether Decepticons (the bad ones) can become Autobots (the good ones). And there's the Fallen, who's sort of the movie's villain even though he barely shows up. And people from 17,000 BC who had weird teeth and fought robots. And the ancient Egyptians did stuff. And Sam's parents go to France except that they meet a robot and then they're in Egypt.</p> <p>Really, I could go on and on. This movie starts out with a coherent storyline, for the first half hour or so, and then it just starts to spin faster and faster until the centrifuge of random events slams you into the walls. It doesn't help that there are 500 robots in the movie and they all look kind of the same.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-3.jpg" width="484" height="350" style="display:block">Oh, but that's the other thing about <em>ROTF</em>. It's actually quite funny, a lot of the time. Some of the jokes fall flat, like the "twin" robots with the ghetto speak, and a lot of the stuff with John Turturro. But the movie's relentless silliness is mostly pretty hilarious, in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, and almost nothing in the movie seems intended to be taken seriously.</p> <p>So, to sum up: <em>Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen</em> is one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinema, if not the greatest. You could easily argue that cinema, as an artform, has all been leading up to this. It will destabilize your limbic system, probably forever, and make you doubt the solidity of your surroundings. Generations of auteurs have struggled, in vain, to create a cinematic experience as overwhelming, and as liberating, as <em>ROTF</em>.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-9.jpg" width="484" height="269" style="display:block">Women as well as men, everyone watching this film will feel the dissolution of all their certainties, all their illusory grasp on the world... but after you fall into a brazen despair that the walls of reality have become toxic ice cream of a million flavors, you will gasp with a greater realization: that once the world is reduced, forever, to a kaleidoscope of whirling shapes, you are totally free. Nothing matters, effect precedes cause, fish spawn in mid-air, and you can do whatever you want. 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But the critics are wrong. <a title="Click here to read more posts tagged MICHAEL BAY" href="http://io9.com/tag/michael-bay/">Michael Bay</a> used a squillion dollars and a hundred supercomputers' worth of CG for a brilliant art movie about the illusory nature of plot.</p> <p>Oh, and I would warn you that there&#39;ll be spoilers in this review  except that, really, since I still have no idea what actually happened in this movie, I&#39;m not sure how much I can spoil it.</p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-4.jpg" width="484" height="343" style="display:block">Since the days of <em>Un Chien Andalou</em> and <em><a title="Click here to read more posts tagged THE CABINET OF DR. CALIGARI" href="http://io9.com/tag/the-cabinet-of-dr%27-caligari/">The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari</a></em>, filmmakers have reached beyond meaning. But with this summer's biggest, loudest movie, Michael Bay takes us all the way inside Caligari's cabinet. And once you enter, you can never emerge again. I saw this movie two days ago, and I'm still living inside it. Things are exploding wherever I look, household appliances are trying to kill me, and bizarre racial stereotypes are shouting at me.</p> <p><em><a title="Click here to read more posts tagged TRANSFORMERS: ROTF" href="http://io9.com/tag/transformers%7c-rotf/">Transformers: ROTF</a></em> has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense. It's an assault on the senses, a barrage of crazy imagery. Imagine that you went back in time to the late 1960s and found Terry Gilliam, fresh from doing his weird low-fi collage/animations for Monty Python. You proceeded to inject Gilliam with so many steroids his penis shrank to the size of a hair follicle, and you smushed a dozen tabs of LSD under his tongue. And then you gave him the GDP of a few sub-Saharan countries. Gilliam might have made a movie not unlike this one.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-11.jpg" width="800" height="330" style="display:block;float:none"></p> <p>And the true genius of <em>Transformers: ROTF</em> is that Bay has put all of this excess of imagery and random ideas at the service of the most pandering movie genre there is: the summer movie. <em>ROTF</em> is like twenty summer movies, with unrelated storylines, smushed together into one crazy whole. You try in vain to understand how the pieces fit, you stare into the cracks between the narrative strands, until the cracks become chasms and the chasms become an abyss into which you stare until it looks deep into your own soul, and then you go insane. You. Do. Not. Leave. The Cabinet.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-of2.jpg" width="484" height="307" style="display:block">Michael Bay understands that summer movies are about two things: male anxiety, and pure id. That's why he casts Shia LaBoeuf, that supreme avatar of pure male inadequacy, in the lead role. LaBoeuf projects a pathetic, wall-eyed dorkhood, when he's not babbling like a tumor removed from Woody Allen's prostate that somehow achieved sentience. I imagine the DVD of <em>ROTF</em> will include a whole disk of outtakes where they had to stop filming because LaBoeuf was drooling on camera. As it is, the film includes several extreme closeups of LaBoeuf's dazed stare.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-19.jpg" width="484" height="278" style="display:block">Where was I? Oh yes. So LaBoeuf, who's actually a fine actor, is the stand-in for the male viewers' greatest fears about themselves. No matter how great a loser they might be, they can't be as losery a loser as Sam Witwicky. And yet, Sam has awesome giant robots stomping around telling him he's the most important awesome person ever. And he has the hottest girlfriend in the universe, Megan Fox, for whom banality is a huge aphrodisiac. The more pathetic Sam gets, the more Fox's lips pout and her nipples point, like little Irish setters.</p> <p>To make matters more awesome for the insecure males in the audience, Sam actually tosses aside his giant robot fanclub and his walking-pinup girlfriend, so he can have a normal life. Of course, this only leads to other robots and hawt chicks (who turn out to be robots too) throwing themselves at him and telling him how important he is. In the end, everybody learns to appreciate Sam just a bit more than they already did, and a booming voice tells him he's earned the "matrix of leadership" through his courage and stuff.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-15.jpg" width="484" height="310" style="display:block">And then there's the "id" part, which is the part where stuff blows up real good, and huge machines smash each other up. And every single performance is so ridiculous that it looks down on "over the top" as if from a great height. It's the part of your brain that thinks it would be awesome to see robots with giant dangling testicles, or hot chicks turning into robot tentacle monsters, or "ghetto" robots that talk in inept hip-hop slang and smash each other playfully, or funny Jewish men who talk about their "schmear" and randomly strip to their G-strings. Is that going too far? Then let's go 100 times farther than that and see what happens!</p> <p><em>Transformers: ROTF</em> is so long, you'll need to wear adult diapers to it. But the movie's pure celebration of the primal urge, and unfiltered living, will make you rejoice in your adult diapers. You'll relieve yourself in your seat with a savage joy, your barbaric yawp blending in with the crowd's screams of excitement.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-14.jpg" width="484" height="322" style="display:block">And yet  and here&#39;s the part where I really think <em>ROTF</em> approaches &quot;art movie&quot; status  the movie&#39;s id overload reaches such crazy levels that the fabric of reality itself starts to break down. Michael Bay has boasted about how every single shot in the movie has so much stuff going on in it, it would take your PC since the dawn of time to render one frame. After a few hours of this assault, you feel the chair melt and the floor of the movie theater becomes an angry mirror into your soul. Nothing is solid, nothing is real, everything Transforms.</p> <p>The closest thing I can think of to this movie is the Wachowskis' <em>Speed Racer</em>, which had a similar kind of CG image overload, although it was only five hours long as opposed to ROTF's nine.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-5.jpg" width="484" height="327" style="display:block">And around hour six of <em>ROTF</em>, something curious happens: the two components  male enhancement and pure id  start to clash, badly. Usually, in a summer movie, the two aspects go together like tits and ass: Jason Statham plays someone who faces the same insecurities as regular dudes, but he overcomes them, and in the process he blows up <u>everything in the world</u>. But creating that kind of fusion requires enslaving the id to the male enhancement, and that in turn means only going way over the top instead of crazy, stratospheric over the top. Michael Bay is not willing to settle for going way over the top, like other directors.</p> <p>So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality  but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There&#39;s no such thing as the &quot;real world,&quot; and the only thing that&#39;s left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you&#39;re drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge13.jpg" width="484" height="251" style="display:block">So yes, <em>ROTF</em> approaches the sublime, and then just keeps rocketing. Next stop: total anarchy. In a sense, it's the first war movie ever to convey a real sense of the fog of war, the confusion that comes with battle. Somewhere around hour nine, you will understand why friendly fire happens in wartime.</p> <p>So I've gotten almost all the way through this review, and I still haven't summarized the movie's plot. Here goes. It's a couple years after the first movie, and Sam is going off to college, leaving his transforming car and his hot girlfriend, whom he still hasn't told he loves her. And meanwhile, the soldiers from the first movie are running around with a bunch of late-model GM cars and trucks, which turn into robots and fight other robots sometimes. Sam sees weird symbols which make no sense (and they still make no sense at the end of the movie) and they turn out to be the key to the location of a thing that can control another thing, that will enable the bad guys to destroy the sun. Sam has to embrace the heroic destiny he's rejected, so he can save us all from solarcide.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-8.jpg" width="484" height="255" style="display:block">But that bare plot summary doesn't include the twenty or thirty other storylines that could also claim to be the movie's plot. There's the whole thing where someone from Washington D.C. wonders why the U.S. military is running around the globe with a bunch of late-model GM cars from outer space, and tries to put the kibosh on the military-Autobot complex. There's the teenager who's got a conspiracy website, that competes with another conpsiracy website which turns out to be the work of a secret agent who's decided that the best way to keep things secret is to put them on a website. (It works. I post secret stuff on io9 all the time.) Various robots die and then come back to life, and there's a whole strand about whether Decepticons (the bad ones) can become Autobots (the good ones). And there's the Fallen, who's sort of the movie's villain even though he barely shows up. And people from 17,000 BC who had weird teeth and fought robots. And the ancient Egyptians did stuff. And Sam's parents go to France except that they meet a robot and then they're in Egypt.</p> <p>Really, I could go on and on. This movie starts out with a coherent storyline, for the first half hour or so, and then it just starts to spin faster and faster until the centrifuge of random events slams you into the walls. It doesn't help that there are 500 robots in the movie and they all look kind of the same.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-3.jpg" width="484" height="350" style="display:block">Oh, but that's the other thing about <em>ROTF</em>. It's actually quite funny, a lot of the time. Some of the jokes fall flat, like the "twin" robots with the ghetto speak, and a lot of the stuff with John Turturro. But the movie's relentless silliness is mostly pretty hilarious, in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, and almost nothing in the movie seems intended to be taken seriously.</p> <p>So, to sum up: <em>Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen</em> is one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinema, if not the greatest. You could easily argue that cinema, as an artform, has all been leading up to this. It will destabilize your limbic system, probably forever, and make you doubt the solidity of your surroundings. Generations of auteurs have struggled, in vain, to create a cinematic experience as overwhelming, and as liberating, as <em>ROTF</em>.<br></p> <p><img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/06/Transformers_-Revenge-9.jpg" width="484" height="269" style="display:block">Women as well as men, everyone watching this film will feel the dissolution of all their certainties, all their illusory grasp on the world... but after you fall into a brazen despair that the walls of reality have become toxic ice cream of a million flavors, you will gasp with a greater realization: that once the world is reduced, forever, to a kaleidoscope of whirling shapes, you are totally free. Nothing matters, effect precedes cause, fish spawn in mid-air, and you can do whatever you want. Let yourself go in your adult diaper, Michael Bay invites you. Feel the music of total excess stir inside your deepest core. It is your Allspark, your cube. And <u>you</u> are a Transformer.</p><p><iframe src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~ah/f/294slqestpgicgobfhp539vmds/468/60#http%3A%2F%2Fio9.com%2F5301898%2Fmichael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie" width="100%" height="60" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"></iframe></p><div>
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         <title>Lessons learned from Spike Lee's profile of Kobe Bryant</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So the Lakers win another <span>NBA</span> championship. I haven't always been a fan, but I've got to admit it was really fun to watch Kobe Bryant this season. He seemed to have an almost maniacal determination to win another championship. People compare him to Michael Jordan and, while they're both incredibly talented, you get the feeling that what really separates them from the pack is how badly they want to win.</p>


	<p>Along those lines, a great documentary to check out is Spike Lee's <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/features/kobedoinwork">Kobe Doin' Work</a> (<a href="http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Kobe_Doin_Work_A_Spike_Lee_Joint/70115589">Netflix</a>). Bryant gave the filmmaker unprecedented access to his life for one game. He's mic'd up, 30 cameras follow him, and coach Phil Jackson lets the crew into the locker room before the game, at halftime, and after the game too. Here's a preview:</p>


<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vQcswpTB4Zw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowScriptAccess="never" allowFullScreen="true" width="425" height="344" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed><br><br>

	<p>It's fascinating to watch even though the game was a blowout. Also, there's a great storytelling lesson here too: Tell a story about less. See, the impulse is to go for a grand tale. In this case, it'd be to prove how great Kobe is by profiling his entire career or trailing him for an entire season. Along the way, you'd interview teammates, experts, etc. And you'd come up with a pretty generic piece.</p>


	<p>By focusing on just a single game, Lee put a magnifying glass on how Kobe plays. Cameras trail his every move so during every timeout and every play, you get to see and hear how Kobe guides his teammates. It completely changes the way you view both the player and the game. There's no filler or outside input. It's just a laser focus on this one subject during this one day.</p>


	<p>Sometimes it's easier to get a big message across if you narrow your scope. It's what we tried to do with our <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/681-behind-the-scenes-at-37signals-design">Behind the scenes at 37signals</a> series which presented a look at one week of 37signals' <a href="http://www.campfirenow.com">Campfire</a> usage. Not as exciting, perhaps, but the idea was similar: To tell the big story of how integral Campfire is to us, it was best to focus on a short period of time. Sometimes the perfect way to explain a universal truth is through an individual example.</p>


	<p>Also, if you watch the documentary, Lee is incredibly loose with how he asks his questions. It means that Kobe is really relaxed and open with his answers too. If you're ever doing interviews, it's something to note: Go in with stiff questions and you'll probably get stiff answers. Go in loose and you're more likely to get your subject to open up and admit things to you they probably wouldn't otherwise.</p><div>
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</div><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/kobe">kobe</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/kobe"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/kobe.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/game">game</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/game"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/game.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/lee">lee</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/lee"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/lee.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/win">win</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/win"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/win.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/watch">watch</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/watch"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/watch.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Lakers win another <span>NBA</span> championship. I haven't always been a fan, but I've got to admit it was really fun to watch Kobe Bryant this season. He seemed to have an almost maniacal determination to win another championship. People compare him to Michael Jordan and, while they're both incredibly talented, you get the feeling that what really separates them from the pack is how badly they want to win.</p>


	<p>Along those lines, a great documentary to check out is Spike Lee's <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/features/kobedoinwork">Kobe Doin' Work</a> (<a href="http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Kobe_Doin_Work_A_Spike_Lee_Joint/70115589">Netflix</a>). Bryant gave the filmmaker unprecedented access to his life for one game. He's mic'd up, 30 cameras follow him, and coach Phil Jackson lets the crew into the locker room before the game, at halftime, and after the game too. Here's a preview:</p>


<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vQcswpTB4Zw&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowScriptAccess="never" allowFullScreen="true" width="425" height="344" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed><br><br>

	<p>It's fascinating to watch even though the game was a blowout. Also, there's a great storytelling lesson here too: Tell a story about less. See, the impulse is to go for a grand tale. In this case, it'd be to prove how great Kobe is by profiling his entire career or trailing him for an entire season. Along the way, you'd interview teammates, experts, etc. And you'd come up with a pretty generic piece.</p>


	<p>By focusing on just a single game, Lee put a magnifying glass on how Kobe plays. Cameras trail his every move so during every timeout and every play, you get to see and hear how Kobe guides his teammates. It completely changes the way you view both the player and the game. There's no filler or outside input. It's just a laser focus on this one subject during this one day.</p>


	<p>Sometimes it's easier to get a big message across if you narrow your scope. It's what we tried to do with our <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/681-behind-the-scenes-at-37signals-design">Behind the scenes at 37signals</a> series which presented a look at one week of 37signals' <a href="http://www.campfirenow.com">Campfire</a> usage. Not as exciting, perhaps, but the idea was similar: To tell the big story of how integral Campfire is to us, it was best to focus on a short period of time. Sometimes the perfect way to explain a universal truth is through an individual example.</p>


	<p>Also, if you watch the documentary, Lee is incredibly loose with how he asks his questions. It means that Kobe is really relaxed and open with his answers too. If you're ever doing interviews, it's something to note: Go in with stiff questions and you'll probably get stiff answers. Go in loose and you're more likely to get your subject to open up and admit things to you they probably wouldn't otherwise.</p><div>
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         <title>Which Podcasts Have Inspired You?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I like best about listening to podcasts is the ability to find insightful, thought-provoking content that I might otherwise have missed.</p>
<p>Tonight I managed to get out for my first decent run since racing in the <a href="http://www.cabottrailrelay.com">Cabot Trail Relay</a> a few weeks ago. While out pounding the trails for what felt like forever, I was able to catch up on some of my podcast listening. I highly recommend you check out two of the episodes I listened to, from two of my favourite podcasters.</p>
<h2>TVO Search Engine</h2>
<p>If you're not a regular listener, you may not know that <a href="http://jessebrown.ca/">Jesse Brown</a>'s excellent podcast recently moved homes - from CBC (their loss) to <a href="http://feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine">TVO</a> (their gain).   Michael Geist has done a wonderful job recently of drawing attention to <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4000/125/">plagiarism and bias in a  report by the Conference Board of Canada</a> claiming that Canada is a hot-spot for internet piracy (the report has now been <a href="http://www.conferenceboard.ca/press/speech_oped/ipr.aspx">recalled</a> by the organization).   In his <a href="http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;action=blog&amp;subaction=viewPost&amp;post_id=10370&amp;blog_id=81">second Search Engine episode</a> in his new TVO home, Jesse interviews Anne Golden, CEO of the Conference Board. It's awkward, it's uncomfortable, and it's fantastic journalism from someone that doesn't let people get away with a template messaged response to questions. Make sure you check it out.</p>
<h2>CBC Spark</h2>
<p><a href="http://thesniffer.net/">Nora Young</a>'s <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/spark">Spark</a> podcast has long been a favourite of mine. While it has a similar tech focus to other podcasts to which I subscribe, Spark tends to cover stories I might otherwise overlook.  In <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2009/06/episode-80-june-3-6-2009/">Spark episode 80</a>, Nora interviews <a href="http://www.andreareimer.ca/">Andrea Reimer</a> from Vancouver City Council about Vancouver's plan to open up municipal data (in the same manner also <a href="http://visiblegovernment.ca/blog/2009/04/13/toronto-announces-open-data-plan-at-mesh09/">announced by David Miller</a> for the <a href="http://www.toronto.ca">City of Toronto</a> at this year's <a href="http://www.meshconference.com/">Mesh Conference</a>).   I found the interview immensely refreshing. Coming from a government background, I know that there's often a fear within government of what people will do with information. This often leads to the minimum information necessary being shared with the public.  Reimer's take, in contrast to that:</p>
<blockquote><p>we shouldn't, as policy makers, fear the public knowing what we know when we're making decisions, and in fact by knowing it perhaps we could inform ourselves better maybe they'll think of new creative or throw in more information that we didn't have</p></blockquote>
<p>I found myself nodding and smiling throughout the interview. Well worth a listen, for a refreshing take on how governments <em>can </em>go about sharing information with the people who are funding its collection.  What other podcast episodes have caught your eye (or ear) recently?</p>
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<p>Tonight I managed to get out for my first decent run since racing in the <a href="http://www.cabottrailrelay.com">Cabot Trail Relay</a> a few weeks ago. While out pounding the trails for what felt like forever, I was able to catch up on some of my podcast listening. I highly recommend you check out two of the episodes I listened to, from two of my favourite podcasters.</p>
<h2>TVO Search Engine</h2>
<p>If you're not a regular listener, you may not know that <a href="http://jessebrown.ca/">Jesse Brown</a>'s excellent podcast recently moved homes - from CBC (their loss) to <a href="http://feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine">TVO</a> (their gain).   Michael Geist has done a wonderful job recently of drawing attention to <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4000/125/">plagiarism and bias in a  report by the Conference Board of Canada</a> claiming that Canada is a hot-spot for internet piracy (the report has now been <a href="http://www.conferenceboard.ca/press/speech_oped/ipr.aspx">recalled</a> by the organization).   In his <a href="http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;action=blog&amp;subaction=viewPost&amp;post_id=10370&amp;blog_id=81">second Search Engine episode</a> in his new TVO home, Jesse interviews Anne Golden, CEO of the Conference Board. It's awkward, it's uncomfortable, and it's fantastic journalism from someone that doesn't let people get away with a template messaged response to questions. Make sure you check it out.</p>
<h2>CBC Spark</h2>
<p><a href="http://thesniffer.net/">Nora Young</a>'s <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/spark">Spark</a> podcast has long been a favourite of mine. While it has a similar tech focus to other podcasts to which I subscribe, Spark tends to cover stories I might otherwise overlook.  In <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2009/06/episode-80-june-3-6-2009/">Spark episode 80</a>, Nora interviews <a href="http://www.andreareimer.ca/">Andrea Reimer</a> from Vancouver City Council about Vancouver's plan to open up municipal data (in the same manner also <a href="http://visiblegovernment.ca/blog/2009/04/13/toronto-announces-open-data-plan-at-mesh09/">announced by David Miller</a> for the <a href="http://www.toronto.ca">City of Toronto</a> at this year's <a href="http://www.meshconference.com/">Mesh Conference</a>).   I found the interview immensely refreshing. Coming from a government background, I know that there's often a fear within government of what people will do with information. This often leads to the minimum information necessary being shared with the public.  Reimer's take, in contrast to that:</p>
<blockquote><p>we shouldn't, as policy makers, fear the public knowing what we know when we're making decisions, and in fact by knowing it perhaps we could inform ourselves better maybe they'll think of new creative or throw in more information that we didn't have</p></blockquote>
<p>I found myself nodding and smiling throughout the interview. Well worth a listen, for a refreshing take on how governments <em>can </em>go about sharing information with the people who are funding its collection.  What other podcast episodes have caught your eye (or ear) recently?</p>
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			<description><![CDATA[I asked a <a href="http://twitter.com/davewiner/status/1983049582">question</a> on Twitter: "An example of a non-monetary gift you couldn't accept from a company you cover? Why?"<br><br>
Some of the answers...<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/snackfight/status/1983085681">Michael Calore</a>: "copy of shrink-wrapped software i didn't review, comp tickets to a show/concert sponsored by a company i write about often"<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/TrackerNews/status/1983090150">Janet Ginsburg</a>: "at businessweek (a while back) strong rule re no gifts. kept things clean. sm conf swag (pens, bags) but that's it."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/SFDoug/status/1983094199">Doug Levy</a>: "just as physicians are inadvertently biased by trinkets like drug co pens, reporters need to vigorously avoid potential bias."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/scootsmoon/status/1983097085">Freda Moon</a>: "I was taught to accept no gifts from sources. None. Not tickets. Not a meal. Not even a cup of coffee. That last one can be hard."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/selfmadepsyche/status/1983112153">Megan Taylor</a>: "Tickets to sporting events. Reporters are supposed to be objective and accepting gifts compromises that."<br><br>
There seems to be a consensus here.<br><br>
Now a followup question.<br><br>
<i>Can you accept placement on Twitter's Suggested Users List if you are a journalist who covers Twitter?</i><br><br>
Please this question is only for journalists. <br><br><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/question">question</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/question"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/question.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/gifts">gifts</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/gifts"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/gifts.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/accept">accept</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/accept"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/accept.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/tickets">tickets</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/tickets"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/tickets.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/twitter">twitter</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/twitter"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/twitter.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[I asked a <a href="http://twitter.com/davewiner/status/1983049582">question</a> on Twitter: "An example of a non-monetary gift you couldn't accept from a company you cover? Why?"<br><br>
Some of the answers...<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/snackfight/status/1983085681">Michael Calore</a>: "copy of shrink-wrapped software i didn't review, comp tickets to a show/concert sponsored by a company i write about often"<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/TrackerNews/status/1983090150">Janet Ginsburg</a>: "at businessweek (a while back) strong rule re no gifts. kept things clean. sm conf swag (pens, bags) but that's it."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/SFDoug/status/1983094199">Doug Levy</a>: "just as physicians are inadvertently biased by trinkets like drug co pens, reporters need to vigorously avoid potential bias."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/scootsmoon/status/1983097085">Freda Moon</a>: "I was taught to accept no gifts from sources. None. Not tickets. Not a meal. Not even a cup of coffee. That last one can be hard."<br><br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/selfmadepsyche/status/1983112153">Megan Taylor</a>: "Tickets to sporting events. Reporters are supposed to be objective and accepting gifts compromises that."<br><br>
There seems to be a consensus here.<br><br>
Now a followup question.<br><br>
<i>Can you accept placement on Twitter's Suggested Users List if you are a journalist who covers Twitter?</i><br><br>
Please this question is only for journalists. <br><br><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/question">question</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/question"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/question.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/gifts">gifts</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/gifts"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/gifts.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/accept">accept</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/accept"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/accept.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/tickets">tickets</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/tickets"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/tickets.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/twitter">twitter</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/twitter"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/twitter.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

         <pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:32 -0500</pubDate>         <guid isPermaLink="false">tag:croncast.com,5020</guid>

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			<description><![CDATA[<img align="right" alt="" border="0" height="277" src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/02/15/magazine/15battier.4-190.jpg" width="190">A couple years ago, Michael Lewis <a href="http://tins.rklau.com/2007/09/michael-lewis-blind-side.html">visited Google</a> to talk about his new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/039306123X/ref=nosim/tins-20">The Blind Side</a>. At <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F-_HHriWSQ#t=50m59s">50:59</a>, Lewis started talking about the Houston Rockets, and their then-new GM Darell Morey. In particular, Lewis was intrigued by the fact that the Rockets had orchestrated a big trade with the Memphis Grizzlies, and the central player in the trade was Shane Battier. Battier, interestingly, was a player the Grizzlies weren't particularly interested in: he didn't score a lot of points, didn't have a ton of assists, didn't block a lot of shots. But the Rockets had determined that, oddly enough, his team tended to play much, much better when Battier was on the court.<br>
<br>
Lewis revisited that theme in a Sunday Times article this weekend called <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?_r=3&amp;pagewanted=all">The No-Stats All Star</a>, and the result is a fascinating essay on the importance of data in competetition. The Rockets are playing a different game than many other teams, in much the same way Billy Beane and the Oakland A's were playing a different game in the 90s (the subject of Lewis's fantastic <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393324818?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=tins-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0393324818">Moneyball</a>).<br>
<br>
The Rockets have figured out how data can not only help Battier be a better player, but can actually convert their opponents' biggest asset (in one example, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant) into a liability. Executing still matters, of course - and a positive outcome doesn't inevitably result. Lewis recounts how the Rockets assembled a huge mountain of data about Kobe Bryant. Does he go to the left or to the right. Does he score more off the dribble or from a pass. What's his shooting percentage from 18 feet out. And so on.<br>
<br>
What makes Battier so unique is that he wants that data, absorbs the data, and then puts it to good use:<br>
<blockquote>People often say that Kobe Bryant has no weaknesses to his game, but that's not really true. Before the game, Battier was given his special package of information. He's the only player we give it to, Morey says. We can give him this fire hose of data and let him sift. Most players are like golfers. You don't want them swinging while they're thinking.</blockquote>When Michael Lewis was at Google in '07, I asked him whether coaches wanted their players aware of these sophisticated methods for evaluating their performance. The parallels to how we think about (and use) data to inform decisions at all levels of Google seemed pretty obvious to me. My question and Lewis's answer start at 56m52s in:<br>
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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7F-_HHriWSQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" allowScriptAccess="never" allowFullScreen="true" width="425" height="344" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed><br>
<br>
Short answer: Beane wouldn't want his players to be concerned with the data, wouldn't trust that they could put it to good use. Just like Morey refers to most players being like golfers: "you don't want them swinging while they're thinking."<br>
<br>
Back to Battier. Check out what effect the Rockets data collection has when Battier is able to apply it in the game:<br>
<blockquote>If [Kobe] has 40 points on 40 shots, I can live with that, Battier says. My job is not to keep him from scoring points but to make him as inefficient as possible. The court doesn't have little squares all over it to tell him what percentage Bryant is likely to shoot from any given spot, but it might as well.The reason the Rockets insist that Battier guard Bryant is his gift for encouraging him into his zones of lowest efficiency. The effect of doing this is astonishing: <i>Bryant doesn't merely help his team less when Battier guards him than when someone else does. When Bryant is in the game and Battier is on him, the Lakers' offense is worse than if the N.B.A.'s best player had taken the night off. </i>[emphasis mine]</blockquote>Not a bad way to think about how to compete: figure out what data matters, collect it, sift it, and apply it. Don't be afraid to think while you swing. Indeed, if you can pull that off, you can often negate a competitor's advantage, and even build an advantage of your own.
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<br>
Lewis revisited that theme in a Sunday Times article this weekend called <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?_r=3&amp;pagewanted=all">The No-Stats All Star</a>, and the result is a fascinating essay on the importance of data in competetition. The Rockets are playing a different game than many other teams, in much the same way Billy Beane and the Oakland A's were playing a different game in the 90s (the subject of Lewis's fantastic <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393324818?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=tins-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0393324818">Moneyball</a>).<br>
<br>
The Rockets have figured out how data can not only help Battier be a better player, but can actually convert their opponents' biggest asset (in one example, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant) into a liability. Executing still matters, of course - and a positive outcome doesn't inevitably result. Lewis recounts how the Rockets assembled a huge mountain of data about Kobe Bryant. Does he go to the left or to the right. Does he score more off the dribble or from a pass. What's his shooting percentage from 18 feet out. And so on.<br>
<br>
What makes Battier so unique is that he wants that data, absorbs the data, and then puts it to good use:<br>
<blockquote>People often say that Kobe Bryant has no weaknesses to his game, but that's not really true. Before the game, Battier was given his special package of information. He's the only player we give it to, Morey says. We can give him this fire hose of data and let him sift. Most players are like golfers. You don't want them swinging while they're thinking.</blockquote>When Michael Lewis was at Google in '07, I asked him whether coaches wanted their players aware of these sophisticated methods for evaluating their performance. The parallels to how we think about (and use) data to inform decisions at all levels of Google seemed pretty obvious to me. My question and Lewis's answer start at 56m52s in:<br>
<br>
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7F-_HHriWSQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" allowScriptAccess="never" allowFullScreen="true" width="425" height="344" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed><br>
<br>
Short answer: Beane wouldn't want his players to be concerned with the data, wouldn't trust that they could put it to good use. Just like Morey refers to most players being like golfers: "you don't want them swinging while they're thinking."<br>
<br>
Back to Battier. Check out what effect the Rockets data collection has when Battier is able to apply it in the game:<br>
<blockquote>If [Kobe] has 40 points on 40 shots, I can live with that, Battier says. My job is not to keep him from scoring points but to make him as inefficient as possible. The court doesn't have little squares all over it to tell him what percentage Bryant is likely to shoot from any given spot, but it might as well.The reason the Rockets insist that Battier guard Bryant is his gift for encouraging him into his zones of lowest efficiency. The effect of doing this is astonishing: <i>Bryant doesn't merely help his team less when Battier guards him than when someone else does. When Bryant is in the game and Battier is on him, the Lakers' offense is worse than if the N.B.A.'s best player had taken the night off. </i>[emphasis mine]</blockquote>Not a bad way to think about how to compete: figure out what data matters, collect it, sift it, and apply it. Don't be afraid to think while you swing. Indeed, if you can pull that off, you can often negate a competitor's advantage, and even build an advantage of your own.
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			<description><![CDATA[Eight people connected to a Columbia, S.C. party where Michael Phelps was photographed smoking from a bong have been arrested by the Richland County Sheriff's Department, WIS News reported.<br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/arrested">arrested</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/arrested"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/arrested.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/bong">bong</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/bong"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/bong.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/phelps">phelps</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/phelps"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/phelps.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/sheriff">sheriff</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/sheriff"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/sheriff.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/county">county</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/county"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/county.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Eight people connected to a Columbia, S.C. party where Michael Phelps was photographed smoking from a bong have been arrested by the Richland County Sheriff's Department, WIS News reported.<br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/arrested">arrested</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/arrested"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/arrested.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/bong">bong</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/bong"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/bong.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/phelps">phelps</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/phelps"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/phelps.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/sheriff">sheriff</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/sheriff"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/sheriff.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/county">county</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/county"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/county.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Video game law emerges as a specialty. Facebook and eBay test the limits of Section 230. Forum selection clauses become more important in Internet legal documents. Myspace tries to turn piracy into profit with a new technology. A man claims that an emoticon turned him into a pedophile against his will. Hear Professor Michael Scott and Attorney Josh Kagan tackle these issues and more on this episode of The Singularity Law Podcast!</p>
<p>Click the play button below to listen, or <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=292592548">click here to subscribe to us on iTunes</a>!</p>
<p></p>
<p>Here are the show notes for this week's episode:</p>
<p><strong>Shownotes for The Singularity Law Podcast: Episode 8 for December 8, 2008</strong></p>
<p><em>Our Panel for Today:</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Prof. Michael Scott of <a href="http://www.singularitylaw.com">The Singularity Law Blog</a></li>
<li>Josh Kagan of <a href="http://joshkagan.com/blog/">The Josh Kagan Blog</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>Video Game Law as a Hot New Practice Area: Hype or Reality?</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Wall Street Journal: <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/12/03/video-game-law-the-niche-legal-practice-du-jour/">Video-Game Law: The Niche Legal Practice Du Jour</a></li>
<li>LA Times: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-gamelaw3-2008dec03,0,3598702.story">These Lawyers Got (Video) Game</a></li>
<li>Michael Scott's blog: <a href="http://singularitylaw.com/technology-law/211">Videogame Law: New Legal Specialty or Marketing Hype?</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>The Limits of Section 230 Immunity, Part 1: Malware</em></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html">47 U.S.C.  230</a></li>
<li>Venkat Balasubramani's SPAM NOTES blog: <a href="http://spamnotes.com/2008/12/05/could-facebook-be-liable-for-spreading-the-koobface-virus-2.aspx">Could Facebook Be Liable for Spreading the Koobface Virus?</a></li>
<li><em><a href="http://legal.web.aol.com/decisions/dldefam/greenorder.pdf">Green v. AOL</a></em></li>
</ul>
<p><em>The Limits of Section 230 Immunity, Part 2: Trademarks</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Alleyinsider: <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/12/amazon-google-ebay-shouldnt-have-to-hunt-for-trademark-infringers-ebay">Amazon, Google: eBay Shouldn't Have To Hunt For Trademark Infringers</a></li>
<li>EFF: <a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/12/03">Jewelry Company Quest to Expand Trademark Law Could Quash Internet Commerce</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em><strong>Practice Pointer:</strong> The Continued Importance of Forum Selection Clauses</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Internet Cases blog: <a href="http://blog.internetcases.com/2008/11/24/court-enforces-forum-selection-clause-in-web-hosting-agreement/">Court enforces forum selection clause in web hosting agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lclark.edu/faculty/loren/objects/carnivalcedit.pdf"><em>Carnival Cruise Lines, Inc. v. Shute</em>, 499 U.S. 585 (1991)</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>Turning Piracy Into Profit: The Myspace Experiment and Other DMCA Issues</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Reuters: <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4A20P520081103">MySpace, MTV Test Piracy-Profit Plan</a></li>
<li>Michael Scott's blog: <a href="http://singularitylaw.com/copyright-law/priming-the-pump-copyright-style">Priming the Pump - Copyright Style</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em><strong>Final Thoughts:</strong> Entrapment by Emoticon</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Wall Street Journal: <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/12/04/emoticons-on-trial-at-the-nebraska-supreme-court/">Emoticons on Trial at the Nebraska Supreme Court</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>This recording is an informational resource only. It is not designed to offer legal advice</em>.</p>



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<p>Click the play button below to listen, or <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=292592548">click here to subscribe to us on iTunes</a>!</p>
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<p>Here are the show notes for this week's episode:</p>
<p><strong>Shownotes for The Singularity Law Podcast: Episode 8 for December 8, 2008</strong></p>
<p><em>Our Panel for Today:</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Prof. Michael Scott of <a href="http://www.singularitylaw.com">The Singularity Law Blog</a></li>
<li>Josh Kagan of <a href="http://joshkagan.com/blog/">The Josh Kagan Blog</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>Video Game Law as a Hot New Practice Area: Hype or Reality?</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Wall Street Journal: <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/12/03/video-game-law-the-niche-legal-practice-du-jour/">Video-Game Law: The Niche Legal Practice Du Jour</a></li>
<li>LA Times: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-fi-gamelaw3-2008dec03,0,3598702.story">These Lawyers Got (Video) Game</a></li>
<li>Michael Scott's blog: <a href="http://singularitylaw.com/technology-law/211">Videogame Law: New Legal Specialty or Marketing Hype?</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>The Limits of Section 230 Immunity, Part 1: Malware</em></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html">47 U.S.C.  230</a></li>
<li>Venkat Balasubramani's SPAM NOTES blog: <a href="http://spamnotes.com/2008/12/05/could-facebook-be-liable-for-spreading-the-koobface-virus-2.aspx">Could Facebook Be Liable for Spreading the Koobface Virus?</a></li>
<li><em><a href="http://legal.web.aol.com/decisions/dldefam/greenorder.pdf">Green v. AOL</a></em></li>
</ul>
<p><em>The Limits of Section 230 Immunity, Part 2: Trademarks</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Alleyinsider: <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/12/amazon-google-ebay-shouldnt-have-to-hunt-for-trademark-infringers-ebay">Amazon, Google: eBay Shouldn't Have To Hunt For Trademark Infringers</a></li>
<li>EFF: <a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/12/03">Jewelry Company Quest to Expand Trademark Law Could Quash Internet Commerce</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em><strong>Practice Pointer:</strong> The Continued Importance of Forum Selection Clauses</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Internet Cases blog: <a href="http://blog.internetcases.com/2008/11/24/court-enforces-forum-selection-clause-in-web-hosting-agreement/">Court enforces forum selection clause in web hosting agreement</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lclark.edu/faculty/loren/objects/carnivalcedit.pdf"><em>Carnival Cruise Lines, Inc. v. Shute</em>, 499 U.S. 585 (1991)</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>Turning Piracy Into Profit: The Myspace Experiment and Other DMCA Issues</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Reuters: <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4A20P520081103">MySpace, MTV Test Piracy-Profit Plan</a></li>
<li>Michael Scott's blog: <a href="http://singularitylaw.com/copyright-law/priming-the-pump-copyright-style">Priming the Pump - Copyright Style</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em><strong>Final Thoughts:</strong> Entrapment by Emoticon</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Wall Street Journal: <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/12/04/emoticons-on-trial-at-the-nebraska-supreme-court/">Emoticons on Trial at the Nebraska Supreme Court</a></li>
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         <title>Conservative Think Tank: RIAA v. Thomas Mistrial was &amp;#39;Unreasoned&amp;#39; -- Update</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div><p><strong>Update</strong>: The Progress and Freedom Foundation is <a href="http://www.pff.org/about/supporters.html">funded</a> by the record labels, including EMI, Sony and a host of content providers.</p>

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A conservative think tank lashed out at U.S. District Judge Michael Davis on Monday, calling his <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/thomasruling.pdf">mistrial decision</a> (.pdf) in the Jammie Thomas music sharing lawsuit  &quot;unreasoned,&quot;  &quot;unreasonable&quot; and  &quot;injudicious.&quot; </p>

<p>The new <a href="http://www.pff.org/news/news/2008/111708thomasdecisionmaright.html">position paper</a> (.pdf) from the  Progress and Freedom Foundation says the judge&#39;s September ruling is riddled with &quot;profound flaws&quot; that &quot;must be exposed before they mislead other jurists.&quot;</p>

<p>Davis' decision overturned a <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/riaa-jury-finds.html">$222,000</a> Minnesota jury verdict against Thomas, setting the stage for a new trial.</p>

<p>The Washington-based PFF&#39;s staff and board are filled with former Reagan administration and other government officials. Monday&#39;s publication, &quot;Thomas on the Making-Available Right: An Unreasoned and Unreasonable Decision,&quot; comes as the Recording Industry Association of America is demanding Judge Davis allow the record labels to appeal the decision to a higher court before a retrial commences. The trial is currently set for March.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Davis">Davis</a>, a President Clinton appointee, tossed the jury's October 2007 verdict after concluding his jury instructions made it too easy for panelists to find Thomas liable for infringing 24 music tracks on the Kazaa file sharing program. Davis had instructed jurors Thomas was liable for infringement solely for having music in an open share folder on a peer-to-peer network, even without evidence that anyone had downloaded the music illegally.</p><p>It was an important decision, resting at the heart of what <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/judge-rejects-m.html">proof</a> is required to ding a file sharer for copyright infringement, with fines totaling up to $150,000 per music track. </p>

<p>The RIAA has issued about <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/proving-file-sh.html">30,000 lawsuits</a>.
Most have settled out of court. Rulings on the so-called &quot;making
available&quot; argument have been all over the map. The U.S. Supreme Court
has never ruled in a file sharing case.</p>

<p>Only one federal judge has sided with Davis. But the RIAA eventually
won a $40,000 judgment from the judge, before trial, after the court
said the defendant had tampered with evidence. But a Texas judge last
month sided with the RIAA in a case <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/judge-rejects-m.html">against a teenager accused</a> of &quot;making available&quot; music on a file sharing network.</p>

<p> In
declaring a mistrial in the Thomas case, Davis wrote that &quot;actual&quot;
distribution of music files was required. The RIAA countered that
infringement was <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/riaathomasbrief.pdf">implied</a> (.pdf), and that it was next to impossible to demonstrate somebody else downloaded files that Thomas publicly made available.</p>

<p>Still, the decision, even if ultimately accepted by the U.S. Supreme
Court, does not kill RIAA lawsuits. In every case, the RIAA downloads
music files from the open share folder. Judge Davis said the 24
downloads allegedly made from Thomas' share folder could be used as
evidence of infringement. (A looming issue, however, is that the RIAA's
investigators are not licensed, which could become an evidentiary issue
but so far has not.)</p>

<p><a href="http://www.pff.org/about/staff.html#tsydnor">Thomas Sydnor II</a>,
a Progress and Freedom Foundation senior fellow, blasted Davis for
failing to follow case law that found pedophiles were guilty of
distributing child pornography for solely having kid smut in an open
Kazaa share folder. Snydor wrote that Davis &quot;found these on-point
analyses of the ordinary meaning of &#39;distribute&#39; irrelevant.&quot;</p>

<p>Sydnor, a former copyright adviser to the U.S. Patent and Trademark
Office and the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the Thomas decision misread
or disobeyed precedents, federal treaties, scholarly reviews and the
three branches of government.</p>

<p>In his mistrial decision, Davis concluded the RIAA&#39;s position &quot;is simply not reasonable.&quot;</p>

<p>Sydnor seized on that language.</p>

<p>&quot;And with that, Thomas collapsed its rickety tower of clashing
results, unreasoned decisions, and distinguished precedents,&quot; Snydor
wrote. &quot;This extreme claim was itself unreasonable, and it triggered
cascading absurdities.&quot;</p>

<p><em>Illustration</em>: <a href="http://www.modernhumorist.com/">Modernhumorist</a></p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong></p>
<ul><li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/11/thomas-demandin.html#previouspost">Thomas Demands Retrial in RIAA $222000 Verdict</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/riaa-decries-at.html#previouspost">RIAA Decries Attorney-Blogger as 'Vexatious' Litigator</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/11/beckerman-riaas.html#previouspost">Beckerman: RIAA's 'Vexatious' Charge Reeks With 'Falsehood and ...</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/retrial-date-se.html#previouspost">Retrial Date Set in RIAA v. Thomas</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/riaa-decries-te.html#previouspost">RIAA Decries Texas Woman as 'Vexatious' for Demanding File Sharing ...</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/not-for-publica.html#previouspost">Judge Declares Mistrial in RIAA-Jammie Thomas Trial</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/mpaa-waffling-o.html#previouspost">MPAA Waffling on Piracy Costs; RIAA Says Illicit CDs Worth $13.74 Each</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/file-sharer-set.html#previouspost">File Sharer Settles with RIAA for a Whopping $756 a Song</a></li></ul></div><br style="clear:both">
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A conservative think tank lashed out at U.S. District Judge Michael Davis on Monday, calling his <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/thomasruling.pdf">mistrial decision</a> (.pdf) in the Jammie Thomas music sharing lawsuit  &quot;unreasoned,&quot;  &quot;unreasonable&quot; and  &quot;injudicious.&quot; </p>

<p>The new <a href="http://www.pff.org/news/news/2008/111708thomasdecisionmaright.html">position paper</a> (.pdf) from the  Progress and Freedom Foundation says the judge&#39;s September ruling is riddled with &quot;profound flaws&quot; that &quot;must be exposed before they mislead other jurists.&quot;</p>

<p>Davis' decision overturned a <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/riaa-jury-finds.html">$222,000</a> Minnesota jury verdict against Thomas, setting the stage for a new trial.</p>

<p>The Washington-based PFF&#39;s staff and board are filled with former Reagan administration and other government officials. Monday&#39;s publication, &quot;Thomas on the Making-Available Right: An Unreasoned and Unreasonable Decision,&quot; comes as the Recording Industry Association of America is demanding Judge Davis allow the record labels to appeal the decision to a higher court before a retrial commences. The trial is currently set for March.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Davis">Davis</a>, a President Clinton appointee, tossed the jury's October 2007 verdict after concluding his jury instructions made it too easy for panelists to find Thomas liable for infringing 24 music tracks on the Kazaa file sharing program. Davis had instructed jurors Thomas was liable for infringement solely for having music in an open share folder on a peer-to-peer network, even without evidence that anyone had downloaded the music illegally.</p><p>It was an important decision, resting at the heart of what <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/judge-rejects-m.html">proof</a> is required to ding a file sharer for copyright infringement, with fines totaling up to $150,000 per music track. </p>

<p>The RIAA has issued about <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/proving-file-sh.html">30,000 lawsuits</a>.
Most have settled out of court. Rulings on the so-called &quot;making
available&quot; argument have been all over the map. The U.S. Supreme Court
has never ruled in a file sharing case.</p>

<p>Only one federal judge has sided with Davis. But the RIAA eventually
won a $40,000 judgment from the judge, before trial, after the court
said the defendant had tampered with evidence. But a Texas judge last
month sided with the RIAA in a case <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/judge-rejects-m.html">against a teenager accused</a> of &quot;making available&quot; music on a file sharing network.</p>

<p> In
declaring a mistrial in the Thomas case, Davis wrote that &quot;actual&quot;
distribution of music files was required. The RIAA countered that
infringement was <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/riaathomasbrief.pdf">implied</a> (.pdf), and that it was next to impossible to demonstrate somebody else downloaded files that Thomas publicly made available.</p>

<p>Still, the decision, even if ultimately accepted by the U.S. Supreme
Court, does not kill RIAA lawsuits. In every case, the RIAA downloads
music files from the open share folder. Judge Davis said the 24
downloads allegedly made from Thomas' share folder could be used as
evidence of infringement. (A looming issue, however, is that the RIAA's
investigators are not licensed, which could become an evidentiary issue
but so far has not.)</p>

<p><a href="http://www.pff.org/about/staff.html#tsydnor">Thomas Sydnor II</a>,
a Progress and Freedom Foundation senior fellow, blasted Davis for
failing to follow case law that found pedophiles were guilty of
distributing child pornography for solely having kid smut in an open
Kazaa share folder. Snydor wrote that Davis &quot;found these on-point
analyses of the ordinary meaning of &#39;distribute&#39; irrelevant.&quot;</p>

<p>Sydnor, a former copyright adviser to the U.S. Patent and Trademark
Office and the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the Thomas decision misread
or disobeyed precedents, federal treaties, scholarly reviews and the
three branches of government.</p>

<p>In his mistrial decision, Davis concluded the RIAA&#39;s position &quot;is simply not reasonable.&quot;</p>

<p>Sydnor seized on that language.</p>

<p>&quot;And with that, Thomas collapsed its rickety tower of clashing
results, unreasoned decisions, and distinguished precedents,&quot; Snydor
wrote. &quot;This extreme claim was itself unreasonable, and it triggered
cascading absurdities.&quot;</p>

<p><em>Illustration</em>: <a href="http://www.modernhumorist.com/">Modernhumorist</a></p>
<p><strong>See Also:</strong></p>
<ul><li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/11/thomas-demandin.html#previouspost">Thomas Demands Retrial in RIAA $222000 Verdict</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/riaa-decries-at.html#previouspost">RIAA Decries Attorney-Blogger as 'Vexatious' Litigator</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/11/beckerman-riaas.html#previouspost">Beckerman: RIAA's 'Vexatious' Charge Reeks With 'Falsehood and ...</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/retrial-date-se.html#previouspost">Retrial Date Set in RIAA v. Thomas</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/riaa-decries-te.html#previouspost">RIAA Decries Texas Woman as 'Vexatious' for Demanding File Sharing ...</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/not-for-publica.html#previouspost">Judge Declares Mistrial in RIAA-Jammie Thomas Trial</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/mpaa-waffling-o.html#previouspost">MPAA Waffling on Piracy Costs; RIAA Says Illicit CDs Worth $13.74 Each</a></li>

<li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/08/file-sharer-set.html#previouspost">File Sharer Settles with RIAA for a Whopping $756 a Song</a></li></ul></div><br style="clear:both">
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         <title>Google Stares Down Book Industry: Publishers Blink, Google Book Search Wins</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In September 2005, Google was <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050921-5334.html">sued</a> by the Authors Guild, the American Association of Publishers and a number of individual authors for copyright infringement for its Google Book Search project (which was launched in 2004). The plaintiffs claimed that the project was massive copyright infringement and should be shut down. Google held the plaintiffs at bay for more than three years, during which time it scanned, digitized and indexed large numbers of books from major university libraries. (The exact number of books has not been disclosed, but it is believed that <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20080504/ai_n25395879">millions of books</a> have been digitized.)</p>
<p>On October 28, 2008, Google and the AAP announced a settlement of the litigation. The <a href="http://books.google.com/booksrightsholders/agreement-contents.html">agreement</a>, stretching to 141 pages, provides that Google pay $125 million, plus establish a new licensing system with publishers. The system will allow any copyright owner to opt-out of the project, will require Google to pay 63% of all revenues generated by users' access to the database to a collection society (the Book Rights Registry) for distribution to copyright owners, and will result in the implementation of a DRM/subscription model for full-text access, but not for search  which will be limited to short snippets for in-copyright works.</p>
<p>Who won? <span></span></p>
<p>While the copyright owners will receive compensation for the use of their works, the settlement (if approved by the court) will definitely work in Google's favor going forward. First, the high settlement amount will discourage others from entering the field  giving Google a virtual monopoly on every book, periodical and other copyrighted work coming within the settlement. Second, it will be more difficult for others to claim <a href="http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html">fair use</a> if they decided to compete with Google. While there was no determination of whether Google's conduct was or is fair use, a judge in a subsequent case may look at this settlement as evidence that massive digitizing of copyrighted works is not a fair use  otherwise, why would Google, which claimed fair use all along, have settled for such a large amount? A decision in this case that Google's use of copyrighted material was a fair use would have opened the door for many competitors who could have piggybacked on the court's decision and built competitive databases protected by fair use. So a lack of a ruling on this pivotal issue plays into Google's hands.</p>
<p>The settlement allows Google to charge for access to these millions of digitized works  something that previously would have been difficult for Google to do and still claim fair use. So the settlement establishes a legal business model for Google to monetize this huge and growing database of copyrighted materials with the copyright owners' blessing. Google get 37% of all revenues generated, where previously it was getting nothing. (Much more than iTunes gets for their music downloads.)</p>
<p>The settlement agreement is, in essence, a compulsory license for Google to copy virtually any copyrighted work without having to negotiate individually with copyright owners. And it sets the market rate for any negotiations Google will have in the future with copyright owners who are not part of the settlement. While copyright owners are free to opt-out of the system, it would be foolish for most copyright owners to do so. They essentially have three choices  go along with the system, opt-out and forego the revenues they would get under the system, or try to set up their own system to monetized digitized version of their works (which hasn't worked in the music industry and is unlikely to work here). A fourth choice  do a deal with another database developer  is unlikely, since this settlement sets up huge barriers to entry for any competitive service.</p>
<p>So, despite the price tag, I would say that Google is the big winner in this battle, and that the publishing industry may (no, I predict, WILL) live to regret the day they gave Google exclusive control over the online, worldwide distribution of their works.</p>



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<br><br><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/google">google</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/google"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/google.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/copyright">copyright</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/copyright"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/copyright.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/settlement">settlement</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/settlement"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/settlement.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/owners">owners</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/owners"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/owners.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/fair">fair</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/fair"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/fair.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In September 2005, Google was <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050921-5334.html">sued</a> by the Authors Guild, the American Association of Publishers and a number of individual authors for copyright infringement for its Google Book Search project (which was launched in 2004). The plaintiffs claimed that the project was massive copyright infringement and should be shut down. Google held the plaintiffs at bay for more than three years, during which time it scanned, digitized and indexed large numbers of books from major university libraries. (The exact number of books has not been disclosed, but it is believed that <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20080504/ai_n25395879">millions of books</a> have been digitized.)</p>
<p>On October 28, 2008, Google and the AAP announced a settlement of the litigation. The <a href="http://books.google.com/booksrightsholders/agreement-contents.html">agreement</a>, stretching to 141 pages, provides that Google pay $125 million, plus establish a new licensing system with publishers. The system will allow any copyright owner to opt-out of the project, will require Google to pay 63% of all revenues generated by users' access to the database to a collection society (the Book Rights Registry) for distribution to copyright owners, and will result in the implementation of a DRM/subscription model for full-text access, but not for search  which will be limited to short snippets for in-copyright works.</p>
<p>Who won? <span></span></p>
<p>While the copyright owners will receive compensation for the use of their works, the settlement (if approved by the court) will definitely work in Google's favor going forward. First, the high settlement amount will discourage others from entering the field  giving Google a virtual monopoly on every book, periodical and other copyrighted work coming within the settlement. Second, it will be more difficult for others to claim <a href="http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html">fair use</a> if they decided to compete with Google. While there was no determination of whether Google's conduct was or is fair use, a judge in a subsequent case may look at this settlement as evidence that massive digitizing of copyrighted works is not a fair use  otherwise, why would Google, which claimed fair use all along, have settled for such a large amount? A decision in this case that Google's use of copyrighted material was a fair use would have opened the door for many competitors who could have piggybacked on the court's decision and built competitive databases protected by fair use. So a lack of a ruling on this pivotal issue plays into Google's hands.</p>
<p>The settlement allows Google to charge for access to these millions of digitized works  something that previously would have been difficult for Google to do and still claim fair use. So the settlement establishes a legal business model for Google to monetize this huge and growing database of copyrighted materials with the copyright owners' blessing. Google get 37% of all revenues generated, where previously it was getting nothing. (Much more than iTunes gets for their music downloads.)</p>
<p>The settlement agreement is, in essence, a compulsory license for Google to copy virtually any copyrighted work without having to negotiate individually with copyright owners. And it sets the market rate for any negotiations Google will have in the future with copyright owners who are not part of the settlement. While copyright owners are free to opt-out of the system, it would be foolish for most copyright owners to do so. They essentially have three choices  go along with the system, opt-out and forego the revenues they would get under the system, or try to set up their own system to monetized digitized version of their works (which hasn't worked in the music industry and is unlikely to work here). A fourth choice  do a deal with another database developer  is unlikely, since this settlement sets up huge barriers to entry for any competitive service.</p>
<p>So, despite the price tag, I would say that Google is the big winner in this battle, and that the publishing industry may (no, I predict, WILL) live to regret the day they gave Google exclusive control over the online, worldwide distribution of their works.</p>



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			<description><![CDATA[Google, owner of the world's most popular Internet-search engine, lost two copyright lawsuits in Germany over displaying photos and artworks as thumbnails in a preview of search results. Google's preview of a picture by German photographer Michael Bernhard violates his copyrights, the Regional Court of Hamburg ruled, his lawyer Matthies van Eendenburg said in an interview.<br><li>Read the article: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=a_C1wVkCvPww">Bloomberg</a></li><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/google">google</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/google"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/google.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/search">search</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/search"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/search.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/germany">germany</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/germany"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/germany.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/preview">preview</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/preview"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/preview.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/copyright">copyright</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/copyright"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/copyright.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Google, owner of the world's most popular Internet-search engine, lost two copyright lawsuits in Germany over displaying photos and artworks as thumbnails in a preview of search results. Google's preview of a picture by German photographer Michael Bernhard violates his copyrights, the Regional Court of Hamburg ruled, his lawyer Matthies van Eendenburg said in an interview.<br><li>Read the article: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&amp;sid=a_C1wVkCvPww">Bloomberg</a></li><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/google">google</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/google"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/google.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/search">search</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/search"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/search.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/germany">germany</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/germany"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/germany.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/preview">preview</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/preview"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/preview.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/copyright">copyright</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/copyright"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/copyright.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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<p>Let me tell you a story</p>
<p>Lid does a number of things around the Web, and sometimes I even find it hard to keep up.  So I have a Google alert on her, so I can see what she is doing and what people are saying about her.  That's my excuse anyways.</p>
<p>Last Friday I got an alert from Google with 3 references:</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-alert.png"><img title="Google Alert" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-alert-296x300.png" alt="" width="296" height="300"></a></p>
<p>The references are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Lid's ReadWriteWeb post about 
<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php">Social Media and who is doing it well</a> from the Social Media Marketing Summit in San Francisco.</li>
<li>A 
<a href="http://fluffysaunt-laurena.blogspot.com/2008/10/delicious-and-tagging.html">post by Laurena about delicious and tagging</a> which discusses and references Lid's article -just what the Web is intended for.</li>
<li>A post by Oggi' which looks remarkable like Lid's - it starts with the same 20 words - and even references her by name.</li>
</ol>
<p>So who or what is Oggi's blog?  Here is a screen shot.</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/sblog.png"><img title="Splog" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/sblog-191x300.png" alt="" width="191" height="300"></a></p>
<p>Here is a breakdown of Oggi's blog:</p>
<ol>
<li>3 separate groups of Google advertising - two text based, and the third image based.</li>
<li>The title of the post which is the same as Lid's.</li>
<li>The content of the post is the same initial 20 words of Lid's post, then followed by Original post by Lidija Davis with Lid's name linked to her post on ReadWriteWeb.</li>
</ol>
<p>Now the link on Lid's post is interesting in that it is not a direct link to the post on ReadWriteWeb, but rather an indirect link via Google's FeedBurner service.  Here is the link:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px">
<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/nS1e6RgCjbw/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php">http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/nS1e6RgCjbw/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php</a></p>
<p>So what about the other posts on this blog?  Surprise, surprise, they all reference other people's posts in exactly the same way.  The same title is used, same first 20 words, and a link to the original post via FeedBurner.</p>
<p>Just to prove to myself that Google is still in fact indexing Oggi's blog, I did a site search for Lidija, and found two previous ReadWriteWeb posts.</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-site-search.png"><img title="Google Site Search" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-site-search-300x261.png" alt="" width="300" height="261"></a></p>
<p>So what is the point of Oggi's blog?</p>
<p>To hi-hack anyone who is searching for the title of noteworthy posts, so that if they click on the links, they will invoke 3 separate Google blocks of ads, with the user clicking through to the original article.</p>
<p>Now, who wins out of this?</p>
<ol>
<li>Oggi - for the princely sum of a few fractions of a cent.</li>
<li>Google - for recording and charging the lucky advertisers for appearing on Oggi's blog - this too would be minimal; however, it is still money on the bottom line.</li>
</ol>
<p>The individual amount of money changing hands is minimal; however, multiply this by the number of hapless visitors and it could get into the hundreds for Oggi, and multiply this by the number of Oggi clones out there and now you are getting into the thousands for Google.  I must state that I have absolutely no clue as to the actual numbers, but I think I have underestimated both sets of numbers here.</p>
<p>So who loses?</p>
<ol>
<li>The users of the Web for being distracted by useless profiteering </li>
<li>The advertiser.</li>
<li>The Web in general for being littered with content which has absolutely zero value.</li>
</ol>
<p>So to recap:</p>
<ol>
<li>I was sent an e-mail by Google alerting me to the existence of Oggi's blog, of which I was blissfully ignorant until then.</li>
<li>I visit Oggi's blog and find that I am reading a post of zero value to me, has zero content, well actually 29 words copied from elsewhere, and which is surrounded  by 3 block's of Google advertisements.</li>
<li>The link to the original post is via Google's FeedBurner service.</li>
</ol>
<p>The only thing which is not Google's is the blogging software, which is WordPress in this case.  Otherwise, we would have had a clean sweep.  Digressing a bit, we had a bit of 
<a href="http://blog-well.com/2008/03/31/google-acquires-automattic-for-42-billion/">fun last April fool's with this post on Google acquiring WordPress</a> (remember this is not serious).</p>
<p>Now what Oggi is doing is cookie cutter stuff, so I can't see how Google cannot detect that the intent is none other than injecting a post in between the user and what they actually want to view and benefiting courtesy of Google ads.</p>
<p>But then the conspiracy person within me has a theory, and we all have one, just the degree varies (checkout ReadWriteWeb's very own post on 
<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/chrome_password_protected_web.php">Chrome</a>)</p>
<p>Why aren't Google proactively purging such sites from their index, and thus alerts?</p>
<p>If they did then they loose money since ads are not being triggered.</p>
<p>I certainly hope this is not the case.  I would expect that purging 100% of such sites from the index is actually impossible, but I think that low hanging fruit such as Oggi are simple enough for a group of 2-3 Googlers to solve - a few, ok, many, 20% days perhaps.</p>
<p>It maybe a long bow, but the theoretical dilemma is interesting, and no doubt finer minds than mine have discussed this to death.</p>
<p>I googled Google to see if you can report such blogs so this site is removed from the index, but the only thing I could find on the first page of the results, I am not a patient searcher, was a reference to reporting copyright infringements which requires me to mail in a letter (I kid you not).</p>
<p>I was expecting to find a report abuse' link one click away from the Google's home page, in About Google specifically.</p>
<p>With search being an integral part of everyone's online life now, and that given that googled' is now a verb, it plays a critical component of the Web, in that it potentially can control the pages which are viewed by users, thereby controlling the ads which are displayed, thereby controlling the potential revenue received by Google.</p>
<p>Google currently receives a lot of freedom in what they do, which they have rightly earned, but how can we be sure that this is not abused in the future?</p>
<p>How can we, the citizens of the Web, be assured that there is no conflict of interest between the search/index side of the business and the advertising side within Google?</p>
<p>Is there a common theme here?  Checkout 
<a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-book-search-affects-ecommerce-vertical/">Michael Gray's view on Google's book search</a>.</p>
<p>&lt;/rant&gt;</p>
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<p>Let me tell you a story</p>
<p>Lid does a number of things around the Web, and sometimes I even find it hard to keep up.  So I have a Google alert on her, so I can see what she is doing and what people are saying about her.  That's my excuse anyways.</p>
<p>Last Friday I got an alert from Google with 3 references:</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-alert.png"><img title="Google Alert" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-alert-296x300.png" alt="" width="296" height="300"></a></p>
<p>The references are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Lid's ReadWriteWeb post about 
<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php">Social Media and who is doing it well</a> from the Social Media Marketing Summit in San Francisco.</li>
<li>A 
<a href="http://fluffysaunt-laurena.blogspot.com/2008/10/delicious-and-tagging.html">post by Laurena about delicious and tagging</a> which discusses and references Lid's article -just what the Web is intended for.</li>
<li>A post by Oggi' which looks remarkable like Lid's - it starts with the same 20 words - and even references her by name.</li>
</ol>
<p>So who or what is Oggi's blog?  Here is a screen shot.</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/sblog.png"><img title="Splog" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/sblog-191x300.png" alt="" width="191" height="300"></a></p>
<p>Here is a breakdown of Oggi's blog:</p>
<ol>
<li>3 separate groups of Google advertising - two text based, and the third image based.</li>
<li>The title of the post which is the same as Lid's.</li>
<li>The content of the post is the same initial 20 words of Lid's post, then followed by Original post by Lidija Davis with Lid's name linked to her post on ReadWriteWeb.</li>
</ol>
<p>Now the link on Lid's post is interesting in that it is not a direct link to the post on ReadWriteWeb, but rather an indirect link via Google's FeedBurner service.  Here is the link:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px">
<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/nS1e6RgCjbw/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php">http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/nS1e6RgCjbw/social_media_for_business_who_is_doing_it.php</a></p>
<p>So what about the other posts on this blog?  Surprise, surprise, they all reference other people's posts in exactly the same way.  The same title is used, same first 20 words, and a link to the original post via FeedBurner.</p>
<p>Just to prove to myself that Google is still in fact indexing Oggi's blog, I did a site search for Lidija, and found two previous ReadWriteWeb posts.</p>
<p>
<a href="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-site-search.png"><img title="Google Site Search" src="http://blog-well.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-site-search-300x261.png" alt="" width="300" height="261"></a></p>
<p>So what is the point of Oggi's blog?</p>
<p>To hi-hack anyone who is searching for the title of noteworthy posts, so that if they click on the links, they will invoke 3 separate Google blocks of ads, with the user clicking through to the original article.</p>
<p>Now, who wins out of this?</p>
<ol>
<li>Oggi - for the princely sum of a few fractions of a cent.</li>
<li>Google - for recording and charging the lucky advertisers for appearing on Oggi's blog - this too would be minimal; however, it is still money on the bottom line.</li>
</ol>
<p>The individual amount of money changing hands is minimal; however, multiply this by the number of hapless visitors and it could get into the hundreds for Oggi, and multiply this by the number of Oggi clones out there and now you are getting into the thousands for Google.  I must state that I have absolutely no clue as to the actual numbers, but I think I have underestimated both sets of numbers here.</p>
<p>So who loses?</p>
<ol>
<li>The users of the Web for being distracted by useless profiteering </li>
<li>The advertiser.</li>
<li>The Web in general for being littered with content which has absolutely zero value.</li>
</ol>
<p>So to recap:</p>
<ol>
<li>I was sent an e-mail by Google alerting me to the existence of Oggi's blog, of which I was blissfully ignorant until then.</li>
<li>I visit Oggi's blog and find that I am reading a post of zero value to me, has zero content, well actually 29 words copied from elsewhere, and which is surrounded  by 3 block's of Google advertisements.</li>
<li>The link to the original post is via Google's FeedBurner service.</li>
</ol>
<p>The only thing which is not Google's is the blogging software, which is WordPress in this case.  Otherwise, we would have had a clean sweep.  Digressing a bit, we had a bit of 
<a href="http://blog-well.com/2008/03/31/google-acquires-automattic-for-42-billion/">fun last April fool's with this post on Google acquiring WordPress</a> (remember this is not serious).</p>
<p>Now what Oggi is doing is cookie cutter stuff, so I can't see how Google cannot detect that the intent is none other than injecting a post in between the user and what they actually want to view and benefiting courtesy of Google ads.</p>
<p>But then the conspiracy person within me has a theory, and we all have one, just the degree varies (checkout ReadWriteWeb's very own post on 
<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/chrome_password_protected_web.php">Chrome</a>)</p>
<p>Why aren't Google proactively purging such sites from their index, and thus alerts?</p>
<p>If they did then they loose money since ads are not being triggered.</p>
<p>I certainly hope this is not the case.  I would expect that purging 100% of such sites from the index is actually impossible, but I think that low hanging fruit such as Oggi are simple enough for a group of 2-3 Googlers to solve - a few, ok, many, 20% days perhaps.</p>
<p>It maybe a long bow, but the theoretical dilemma is interesting, and no doubt finer minds than mine have discussed this to death.</p>
<p>I googled Google to see if you can report such blogs so this site is removed from the index, but the only thing I could find on the first page of the results, I am not a patient searcher, was a reference to reporting copyright infringements which requires me to mail in a letter (I kid you not).</p>
<p>I was expecting to find a report abuse' link one click away from the Google's home page, in About Google specifically.</p>
<p>With search being an integral part of everyone's online life now, and that given that googled' is now a verb, it plays a critical component of the Web, in that it potentially can control the pages which are viewed by users, thereby controlling the ads which are displayed, thereby controlling the potential revenue received by Google.</p>
<p>Google currently receives a lot of freedom in what they do, which they have rightly earned, but how can we be sure that this is not abused in the future?</p>
<p>How can we, the citizens of the Web, be assured that there is no conflict of interest between the search/index side of the business and the advertising side within Google?</p>
<p>Is there a common theme here?  Checkout 
<a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-book-search-affects-ecommerce-vertical/">Michael Gray's view on Google's book search</a>.</p>
<p>&lt;/rant&gt;</p>
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         <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:36:24 -0500</pubDate>         <guid isPermaLink="false">tag:croncast.com,4491</guid>

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         <title>Judge Dismisses Copyright Suit Against Music Site Founder</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[A federal judge has dismissed a copyright-infringement lawsuit filed by EMI Group against Michael Robertson, founder of MP3tunes, MP3.com and Linspire. The bad news for Robertson is the judge allowed EMI, one of the four largest recording companies, to continue to pursue the copyright claims against MP3tunes, court documents show.<br><li>Read the article: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10056282-93.html">CNET News.com</a></li><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/copyright">copyright</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/copyright"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/copyright.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/judge">judge</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/judge"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/judge.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/against">against</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/against"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/against.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mp">mp</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mp"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mp.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/tunes">tunes</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/tunes"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/tunes.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[A federal judge has dismissed a copyright-infringement lawsuit filed by EMI Group against Michael Robertson, founder of MP3tunes, MP3.com and Linspire. The bad news for Robertson is the judge allowed EMI, one of the four largest recording companies, to continue to pursue the copyright claims against MP3tunes, court documents show.<br><li>Read the article: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10056282-93.html">CNET News.com</a></li><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/copyright">copyright</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/copyright"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/copyright.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/judge">judge</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/judge"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/judge.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/against">against</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/against"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/against.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mp">mp</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mp"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mp.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/tunes">tunes</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/tunes"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/tunes.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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         <title>Finally, a Firefox Extension Just for Legal Researchers</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm a little behind on posting things to my blog, so I'm not the first to mention this great extension for Firefox users.  It's called <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6636">Jureeka</a>, and it's the brainchild of Michael Poulshock, a public interest lawyer in Pennington, New Jersey.  The extension is designed specifically for lawyers and legal researchers:  it turns legal citations in web pages into hyperlinks that point to online legal source material.  Michael says that Jureeka  is "great for quickly locating statutes, case law, regulations, federal court rules, international law sources, and more.

I'll be taking a closer look at Jureeka over the next few weeks.  You should, too.<div>
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I'll be taking a closer look at Jureeka over the next few weeks.  You should, too.<div>
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         <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:32:19 -0500</pubDate>         <guid isPermaLink="false">tag:croncast.com,4471</guid>

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         <title>MySQL founder avoids True/False result on resignation query [Rumormonger]</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://valleywag.com/assets/images/valleywag/2008/09/monteeeee.jpg" width="144" height="250">Michael "Monty" Widenius, the leading mind behind the open-source database program MySQL, was credibly rumored to have resigned from Sun Microsystems last Thursday. Now Kaj Arn, the VP of community for MySQL AB, the Finnish company acquired by Sun for a billion bucks in January, has done a spectacular job of <a href="http://blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/09/05/the-rumours-on-monty-resigning/">confusing the hell out of everyone</a> with an equivocating post on the topic. Arn talked to Widenius and wrote: "Technically there is no resignation letter. However, I spoke to Monty yesterday, and yes, resignation is an option he considers ... In summary, I can neither confirm nor deny the rumour. But I hope my posting has shed some light on the situation." No, Kaj, no it hasn't. <em>(Photo by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sebastian_bergmann/2425912196/">Sebastian Bergmann</a>)</em></p> <br style="clear:both">
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         <title> Great Olympic moments on YouTube</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the best ways to watch the Olympics is to chase down all the references made by NBC's commentators on YouTube and watch them in addition to (or instead of) the regular telecast. Here are some of the ones I've found.</p>

<p>From the 1976 Olympics, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2YT-PIkEc">the first perfect 10 in Olympic gymnastics history by Nadia Comaneci</a> on the uneven parallel bars. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I78f_04mQ5A">This more impressive routine</a> also earned a 10, as did <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4n0x1hijHE">this balance beam routine</a>.</p>

<p><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yOOmFgBAdIA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" width="500" height="405" allowScriptAccess="never" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOmFgBAdIA">Olga Korbut's uneven parallel bars routine</a> from the 1972 Olympics (above). Love that dismount! The skills done on the bars today are so much more athletic but Korbut's routine was a magical flowing performance. At the rate the women today are going, the uneven parallel bars will soon be replaced by the high bar used in the men's competitions...they barely use the bottom bar anymore.</p>

<p>My recollection of <a href="http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1984/ATH/mens-4-x-100-metres-relay.html">the men's 4x100m relay at the 1984 Olympics</a> involves the US team trailing after three legs when Carl Lewis (still my favorite Olympian) seizes the baton from Calvin Smith and thunders down the last 100 meters, singlehandedly winning the race and smashing the world record. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxWyKxmMcxo">The reality was somewhat different</a>. The American team was way ahead when Lewis got the baton but it still is amazing to watch him pull away from the rest of the field like that. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt">Bolt</a>-like, innit?</p>

<p>A similar pulling away occurred in 1996 by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6SsX61igBE">Michael Johnson in the 200 meters</a>. No one even came close to threatening his world record for 12 years until the emergence of Usain Bolt.</p>

<p>In 1988, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kPNjkGf4vM">Greg Louganis hit his head on the board</a> on his third-to-last dive in the preliminaries of the men's springboard. He returned to qualify for the next round and eventually won the gold medal in the event.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIgk75Jn9ZQ">Bob Beamon smashed the world record in the long jump</a> by almost two feet at the 1968 Olympics. His record stood for almost 23 years until Mike Powell broke it in 1991.</p>

<p>Also at the '68 Games, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4W6VA0uLc">Dick Fosbury unveiled his unique high jumping technique, the Fosbury Flop</a>, which became the preferred technique in this event. For comparison, here are <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN0lu3KCvFw">a couple</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9wFK9u18o">of videos</a> showing the other techniques that were in use at the time.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1XclGwJY8s">Jesse Owens' 100 meter win</a> at the 1936 Games in Berlin.</p>

<p>After his hamstring popped in the semifinals of the 400 meters at the 1992 Olympics, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zi0_LjHHN4">Derek Redmond, aided by his father, finished the race to roars from the crowd</a>. Just thinking about this makes me cry.</p>

<p>Speaking of tear-inducing performances, Kerri Strug hobbled up to the vault runway on a bum ankle and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFn47a_Ny0Y">hit a 9.712 on her final vault in the team competition at the 1996 Games</a>, landing more or less perfectly on one foot, clinching a victory for the US team. Or so the story goes. As with all mythology, the truth is present but not entirely adhered to. As it turned out, the US team had enough of a lead on the Russian team that Strug's last vault was unnecessary. But it hardly dimishes the moment for Strug. At the time, she thought she had to do the vault for the medal and she went out there and stuck it.</p>

<p>And finally, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjoZkgSvKQg">Svetlana Khorkina on the uneven parallel bars at the 1996 Games</a>. For reasons I don't fully understand, Khorkina is probably my favorite female Olympian ever.</p>

<p><strong>Update:</strong> From the 1964 Games, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOj0zjPzg-c">here's a video of Billy Mills coming from behind in the 10,000 meters</a>. I have no idea how he sprints that fast after running more than six miles. (thx, nivan)</p><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/olympics">olympics</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/olympics"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/olympics.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/team">team</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/team"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/team.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/bars">bars</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/bars"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/bars.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/games">games</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/games"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/games.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/parallel">parallel</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/parallel"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/parallel.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the best ways to watch the Olympics is to chase down all the references made by NBC's commentators on YouTube and watch them in addition to (or instead of) the regular telecast. Here are some of the ones I've found.</p>

<p>From the 1976 Olympics, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2YT-PIkEc">the first perfect 10 in Olympic gymnastics history by Nadia Comaneci</a> on the uneven parallel bars. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I78f_04mQ5A">This more impressive routine</a> also earned a 10, as did <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4n0x1hijHE">this balance beam routine</a>.</p>

<p><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yOOmFgBAdIA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" width="500" height="405" allowScriptAccess="never" wmode="transparent" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOmFgBAdIA">Olga Korbut's uneven parallel bars routine</a> from the 1972 Olympics (above). Love that dismount! The skills done on the bars today are so much more athletic but Korbut's routine was a magical flowing performance. At the rate the women today are going, the uneven parallel bars will soon be replaced by the high bar used in the men's competitions...they barely use the bottom bar anymore.</p>

<p>My recollection of <a href="http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1984/ATH/mens-4-x-100-metres-relay.html">the men's 4x100m relay at the 1984 Olympics</a> involves the US team trailing after three legs when Carl Lewis (still my favorite Olympian) seizes the baton from Calvin Smith and thunders down the last 100 meters, singlehandedly winning the race and smashing the world record. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxWyKxmMcxo">The reality was somewhat different</a>. The American team was way ahead when Lewis got the baton but it still is amazing to watch him pull away from the rest of the field like that. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt">Bolt</a>-like, innit?</p>

<p>A similar pulling away occurred in 1996 by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6SsX61igBE">Michael Johnson in the 200 meters</a>. No one even came close to threatening his world record for 12 years until the emergence of Usain Bolt.</p>

<p>In 1988, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kPNjkGf4vM">Greg Louganis hit his head on the board</a> on his third-to-last dive in the preliminaries of the men's springboard. He returned to qualify for the next round and eventually won the gold medal in the event.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIgk75Jn9ZQ">Bob Beamon smashed the world record in the long jump</a> by almost two feet at the 1968 Olympics. His record stood for almost 23 years until Mike Powell broke it in 1991.</p>

<p>Also at the '68 Games, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4W6VA0uLc">Dick Fosbury unveiled his unique high jumping technique, the Fosbury Flop</a>, which became the preferred technique in this event. For comparison, here are <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN0lu3KCvFw">a couple</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9wFK9u18o">of videos</a> showing the other techniques that were in use at the time.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1XclGwJY8s">Jesse Owens' 100 meter win</a> at the 1936 Games in Berlin.</p>

<p>After his hamstring popped in the semifinals of the 400 meters at the 1992 Olympics, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zi0_LjHHN4">Derek Redmond, aided by his father, finished the race to roars from the crowd</a>. Just thinking about this makes me cry.</p>

<p>Speaking of tear-inducing performances, Kerri Strug hobbled up to the vault runway on a bum ankle and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFn47a_Ny0Y">hit a 9.712 on her final vault in the team competition at the 1996 Games</a>, landing more or less perfectly on one foot, clinching a victory for the US team. Or so the story goes. As with all mythology, the truth is present but not entirely adhered to. As it turned out, the US team had enough of a lead on the Russian team that Strug's last vault was unnecessary. But it hardly dimishes the moment for Strug. At the time, she thought she had to do the vault for the medal and she went out there and stuck it.</p>

<p>And finally, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjoZkgSvKQg">Svetlana Khorkina on the uneven parallel bars at the 1996 Games</a>. For reasons I don't fully understand, Khorkina is probably my favorite female Olympian ever.</p>

<p><strong>Update:</strong> From the 1964 Games, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOj0zjPzg-c">here's a video of Billy Mills coming from behind in the 10,000 meters</a>. I have no idea how he sprints that fast after running more than six miles. (thx, nivan)</p><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/olympics">olympics</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/olympics"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/olympics.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/team">team</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/team"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/team.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/bars">bars</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/bars"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/bars.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/games">games</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/games"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/games.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/parallel">parallel</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/parallel"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/parallel.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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         <title>Silicon Valley's Top 50 Web Influencers</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I've been in Aspen all week so missed this announcement from a couple of days ago:

</p><blockquote><p><strong>NowPublic announces Silicon Valley "MostPublic Index"</strong><br>
Identifies the Web's 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley
</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/">NowPublic</a>, the world's largest participatory news network, today announced its second MostPublic Index, identifying the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">50 most influential individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco</a>. 
</p>

<p>The MostPublic Index is a detailed (and transparent) barometer of whose voices are most heard in the digital landscape as new channelsTwitter, Facebook, Flick, YouTube and the liketransform how media is created and spread. Last week, NowPublic identified and announced the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mostpublic-index">50 MostPublic influencers in New York</a>.
</p>

<p> NowPublic's formula gauges influence and publicness across four categories: 
</p>

<ul><li>Online Visibility
</li>

<li>Presence on User-Generated Content and Social Networking Sites </li>

<li>Interactivity and Accessibility </li>

<li> The R Factor: Presence on Microblogging Platforms (Flickr, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.) </li></ul>
<p>NowPublic examined statistics in each of these categories from Alexa, Compete, Facebook, Flickr, Google, Quantcast, Technorati, YouTube and various other blogs and sites, to create a list of Silicon Valley's leading influencers. It then narrowed the list to 50 by analyzing and documenting individuals' presence and popularity in each of these channels, applying a weighted scoring system, determined by the strength of specific traits held in each online community. A detailed account of the scoring system can be viewed <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">here</a>. 
</p>

<p> Here is NowPublic's list of the MostPublic individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco: </p>

<p>1. Robert Scoble
 <br>2. Michael Arrington <br>3. Jack Dorsey <br>4. Biz Stone 
<br>5. Matt Cutts 
<br>6. Pete Cashmore 
<br>7. Dave Winer 
<br>8. Guy Kawasaki 
<br>9. Loc Le Meur 

<br>10. Kevin Rose

<br>11. Merlin Mann

<br>12. Stowe Boyd

<br>13. Jeff Atwood

<br>14. Jeremiah Owyang

<br>15. Veronica Belmont

<br>16. Kara Swisher

<br>17. Scott Beale

<br>18. Marc Andreessen

<br>19. Ryan Block

<br>20. David Sifry

<br>21. Emily Chang

<br>22. Om Malik

<br>23. Timothy Ferriss

<br>24. Nick Douglas

<br>25. John Battelle

<br>26. David Cohn

<br>27. Louis Gray

<br>28. Tom Foremski

<br>29. Tim O'Reilly

<br>30. Ariel Waldman

<br>31. Matt Mullenweg

<br>32. Dean Takahashi

<br>33. Philip Kaplan

<br>34. JD Lasica

<br>35. Sarah Lacy

<br>36. Brian Solis

<br>37. Charlene Li

<br>38. Rafe Needleman

<br>39. Dan Farber

<br>40. Howard Rheingold

<br>41. David McClure

<br>42. Margaret Mason

<br>43. Jason Goldman

<br>44. Leah Culver

<br>45. Chris Shipley

<br>46. Jackson West

<br>47. Liz Gannes

<br>48. Owen Thomas

<br>49. Adeo Ressi

<br>50. Max Levchin
</p></blockquote>
<p>
Color ValleyWag <a href="http://valleywag.com/5030586/robert-scoble-other-valley-bon-vivants-subject-of-latest-ego+stroking-linkbait">unimpressed</a>. </p>

<p>Lists are fun, of course. But I'm decidedly not one of the 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley. This is more an indication of popularity on social media networks, and even there I'm not so sure.</p><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/silicon">silicon</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/silicon"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/silicon.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/valley">valley</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/valley"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/valley.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/nowpublic">nowpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/nowpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/nowpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mostpublic">mostpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mostpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mostpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/influential">influential</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/influential"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/influential.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been in Aspen all week so missed this announcement from a couple of days ago:

</p><blockquote><p><strong>NowPublic announces Silicon Valley "MostPublic Index"</strong><br>
Identifies the Web's 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley
</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/">NowPublic</a>, the world's largest participatory news network, today announced its second MostPublic Index, identifying the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">50 most influential individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco</a>. 
</p>

<p>The MostPublic Index is a detailed (and transparent) barometer of whose voices are most heard in the digital landscape as new channelsTwitter, Facebook, Flick, YouTube and the liketransform how media is created and spread. Last week, NowPublic identified and announced the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mostpublic-index">50 MostPublic influencers in New York</a>.
</p>

<p> NowPublic's formula gauges influence and publicness across four categories: 
</p>

<ul><li>Online Visibility
</li>

<li>Presence on User-Generated Content and Social Networking Sites </li>

<li>Interactivity and Accessibility </li>

<li> The R Factor: Presence on Microblogging Platforms (Flickr, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.) </li></ul>
<p>NowPublic examined statistics in each of these categories from Alexa, Compete, Facebook, Flickr, Google, Quantcast, Technorati, YouTube and various other blogs and sites, to create a list of Silicon Valley's leading influencers. It then narrowed the list to 50 by analyzing and documenting individuals' presence and popularity in each of these channels, applying a weighted scoring system, determined by the strength of specific traits held in each online community. A detailed account of the scoring system can be viewed <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">here</a>. 
</p>

<p> Here is NowPublic's list of the MostPublic individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco: </p>

<p>1. Robert Scoble
 <br>2. Michael Arrington <br>3. Jack Dorsey <br>4. Biz Stone 
<br>5. Matt Cutts 
<br>6. Pete Cashmore 
<br>7. Dave Winer 
<br>8. Guy Kawasaki 
<br>9. Loc Le Meur 

<br>10. Kevin Rose

<br>11. Merlin Mann

<br>12. Stowe Boyd

<br>13. Jeff Atwood

<br>14. Jeremiah Owyang

<br>15. Veronica Belmont

<br>16. Kara Swisher

<br>17. Scott Beale

<br>18. Marc Andreessen

<br>19. Ryan Block

<br>20. David Sifry

<br>21. Emily Chang

<br>22. Om Malik

<br>23. Timothy Ferriss

<br>24. Nick Douglas

<br>25. John Battelle

<br>26. David Cohn

<br>27. Louis Gray

<br>28. Tom Foremski

<br>29. Tim O'Reilly

<br>30. Ariel Waldman

<br>31. Matt Mullenweg

<br>32. Dean Takahashi

<br>33. Philip Kaplan

<br>34. JD Lasica

<br>35. Sarah Lacy

<br>36. Brian Solis

<br>37. Charlene Li

<br>38. Rafe Needleman

<br>39. Dan Farber

<br>40. Howard Rheingold

<br>41. David McClure

<br>42. Margaret Mason

<br>43. Jason Goldman

<br>44. Leah Culver

<br>45. Chris Shipley

<br>46. Jackson West

<br>47. Liz Gannes

<br>48. Owen Thomas

<br>49. Adeo Ressi

<br>50. Max Levchin
</p></blockquote>
<p>
Color ValleyWag <a href="http://valleywag.com/5030586/robert-scoble-other-valley-bon-vivants-subject-of-latest-ego+stroking-linkbait">unimpressed</a>. </p>

<p>Lists are fun, of course. But I'm decidedly not one of the 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley. This is more an indication of popularity on social media networks, and even there I'm not so sure.</p><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/silicon">silicon</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/silicon"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/silicon.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/valley">valley</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/valley"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/valley.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/nowpublic">nowpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/nowpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/nowpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mostpublic">mostpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mostpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mostpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/influential">influential</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/influential"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/influential.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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			<description><![CDATA[<div><p>I&#39;ve been in Aspen all week so missed this announcement from a couple of days ago:

</p><blockquote><p><strong>NowPublic announces Silicon Valley &quot;MostPublic Index&quot;</strong><br>
Identifies the Web&#39;s 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley
</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/">NowPublic</a>, the world&#39;s largest participatory news network, today announced its second MostPublic Index, identifying the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">50 most influential individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco</a>. 
</p>

<p>The MostPublic Index is a detailed (and transparent) barometer of whose voices are most heard in the digital landscape as new channels???Twitter, Facebook, Flick, YouTube and the like???transform how media is created and spread. Last week, NowPublic identified and announced the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mostpublic-index">50 MostPublic influencers in New York</a>.
</p>

<p> NowPublic???s formula gauges influence and ???publicness??? across four categories: 
</p>

<ul><li>Online Visibility
</li>

<li>Presence on User-Generated Content and Social Networking Sites </li>

<li>Interactivity and Accessibility </li>

<li> The ???R??? Factor: Presence on Microblogging Platforms (Flickr, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.) </li></ul>
<p>NowPublic examined statistics in each of these categories from Alexa, Compete, Facebook, Flickr, Google, Quantcast, Technorati, YouTube and various other blogs and sites, to create a list of Silicon Valley???s leading influencers. It then narrowed the list to 50 by analyzing and documenting individuals??? presence and popularity in each of these channels, applying a weighted scoring system, determined by the strength of specific traits held in each online community. A detailed account of the scoring system can be viewed <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">here</a>. 
</p>

<p> Here is NowPublic&#39;s list of the MostPublic individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco: </p>

<p>1. Robert Scoble
 <br>2. Michael Arrington <br>3. Jack Dorsey <br>4. Biz Stone 
<br>5. Matt Cutts 
<br>6. Pete Cashmore 
<br>7. Dave Winer 
<br>8. Guy Kawasaki 
<br>9. Lo??c Le Meur 

<br>10. Kevin Rose

<br>11. Merlin Mann

<br>12. Stowe Boyd

<br>13. Jeff Atwood

<br>14. Jeremiah Owyang

<br>15. Veronica Belmont

<br>16. Kara Swisher

<br>17. Scott Beale

<br>18. Marc Andreessen

<br>19. Ryan Block

<br>20. David Sifry

<br>21. Emily Chang

<br>22. Om Malik

<br>23. Timothy Ferriss

<br>24. Nick Douglas

<br>25. John Battelle

<br>26. David Cohn

<br>27. Louis Gray

<br>28. Tom Foremski

<br>29. Tim O&#39;Reilly

<br>30. Ariel Waldman

<br>31. Matt Mullenweg

<br>32. Dean Takahashi

<br>33. Philip Kaplan

<br>34. JD Lasica

<br>35. Sarah Lacy

<br>36. Brian Solis

<br>37. Charlene Li

<br>38. Rafe Needleman

<br>39. Dan Farber

<br>40. Howard Rheingold

<br>41. David McClure

<br>42. Margaret Mason

<br>43. Jason Goldman

<br>44. Leah Culver

<br>45. Chris Shipley

<br>46. Jackson West

<br>47. Liz Gannes

<br>48. Owen Thomas

<br>49. Adeo Ressi

<br>50. Max Levchin
</p></blockquote>
<p>
Color ValleyWag <a href="http://valleywag.com/5030586/robert-scoble-other-valley-bon-vivants-subject-of-latest-ego+stroking-linkbait">unimpressed</a>. </p>

<p>Lists are fun, of course. But I&#39;m decidedly not one of the 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley. This is more an indication of popularity on social media networks, and even there I&#39;m not so sure.</p></div><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/valley">valley</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/valley"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/valley.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/silicon">silicon</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/silicon"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/silicon.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/nowpublic">nowpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/nowpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/nowpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mostpublic">mostpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mostpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mostpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/list">list</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/list"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/list.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><p>I&#39;ve been in Aspen all week so missed this announcement from a couple of days ago:

</p><blockquote><p><strong>NowPublic announces Silicon Valley &quot;MostPublic Index&quot;</strong><br>
Identifies the Web&#39;s 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley
</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/">NowPublic</a>, the world&#39;s largest participatory news network, today announced its second MostPublic Index, identifying the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">50 most influential individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco</a>. 
</p>

<p>The MostPublic Index is a detailed (and transparent) barometer of whose voices are most heard in the digital landscape as new channels???Twitter, Facebook, Flick, YouTube and the like???transform how media is created and spread. Last week, NowPublic identified and announced the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mostpublic-index">50 MostPublic influencers in New York</a>.
</p>

<p> NowPublic???s formula gauges influence and ???publicness??? across four categories: 
</p>

<ul><li>Online Visibility
</li>

<li>Presence on User-Generated Content and Social Networking Sites </li>

<li>Interactivity and Accessibility </li>

<li> The ???R??? Factor: Presence on Microblogging Platforms (Flickr, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.) </li></ul>
<p>NowPublic examined statistics in each of these categories from Alexa, Compete, Facebook, Flickr, Google, Quantcast, Technorati, YouTube and various other blogs and sites, to create a list of Silicon Valley???s leading influencers. It then narrowed the list to 50 by analyzing and documenting individuals??? presence and popularity in each of these channels, applying a weighted scoring system, determined by the strength of specific traits held in each online community. A detailed account of the scoring system can be viewed <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/most-public-index-silicon-valley">here</a>. 
</p>

<p> Here is NowPublic&#39;s list of the MostPublic individuals in Silicon Valley/San Francisco: </p>

<p>1. Robert Scoble
 <br>2. Michael Arrington <br>3. Jack Dorsey <br>4. Biz Stone 
<br>5. Matt Cutts 
<br>6. Pete Cashmore 
<br>7. Dave Winer 
<br>8. Guy Kawasaki 
<br>9. Lo??c Le Meur 

<br>10. Kevin Rose

<br>11. Merlin Mann

<br>12. Stowe Boyd

<br>13. Jeff Atwood

<br>14. Jeremiah Owyang

<br>15. Veronica Belmont

<br>16. Kara Swisher

<br>17. Scott Beale

<br>18. Marc Andreessen

<br>19. Ryan Block

<br>20. David Sifry

<br>21. Emily Chang

<br>22. Om Malik

<br>23. Timothy Ferriss

<br>24. Nick Douglas

<br>25. John Battelle

<br>26. David Cohn

<br>27. Louis Gray

<br>28. Tom Foremski

<br>29. Tim O&#39;Reilly

<br>30. Ariel Waldman

<br>31. Matt Mullenweg

<br>32. Dean Takahashi

<br>33. Philip Kaplan

<br>34. JD Lasica

<br>35. Sarah Lacy

<br>36. Brian Solis

<br>37. Charlene Li

<br>38. Rafe Needleman

<br>39. Dan Farber

<br>40. Howard Rheingold

<br>41. David McClure

<br>42. Margaret Mason

<br>43. Jason Goldman

<br>44. Leah Culver

<br>45. Chris Shipley

<br>46. Jackson West

<br>47. Liz Gannes

<br>48. Owen Thomas

<br>49. Adeo Ressi

<br>50. Max Levchin
</p></blockquote>
<p>
Color ValleyWag <a href="http://valleywag.com/5030586/robert-scoble-other-valley-bon-vivants-subject-of-latest-ego+stroking-linkbait">unimpressed</a>. </p>

<p>Lists are fun, of course. But I&#39;m decidedly not one of the 50 most influential people in Silicon Valley. This is more an indication of popularity on social media networks, and even there I&#39;m not so sure.</p></div><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/valley">valley</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/valley"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/valley.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/silicon">silicon</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/silicon"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/silicon.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/nowpublic">nowpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/nowpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/nowpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mostpublic">mostpublic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mostpublic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mostpublic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/list">list</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/list"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/list.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Really I wasn't going to post this but since <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/two-search-tidbits/">Matt Cutt's asked people to snitch on paid links</a> again I thought I'd bring up another case of Google's double standard and two tiered justice.</p>
<p><strong>CASE A</strong><br>
A public relations person starts working for a Bed &amp; Breakfast in New England. The person comes up with the idea of inviting high profile A List bloggers up for an all expense paid weekend, flights, room &amp; board, meals the whole shebang including activities are comp'd. In exchange they ask the bloggers if they had a good time please write about it on their blog and post some pictures to flickr. Total cost of the PR event $10K.</p>
<p><strong>CASE B</strong><br>
An SEO starts working for a Bed &amp; Breakfast in New England. The person comes up with the idea of buying some on topic text link advertising on travel related blogs. Total cost for 6 months of link advertising $10K</p>
<p>So I ask you dear readers and specifically you <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/">Matt Cutts</a> what's the difference? At the end of the day $10K was converted into links. Why does Case A get rewarded and lauded as a success? Why does everyone involved in Case B get called out for being the scourge of the internet? Why are all of the websites in Case B penalized, filtered, or in some cases completely annihilated from any and all internet visibility, while the sites in Case A bask in their ego stroking navel gazing glory?</p>
<p>Why does Google aggressively go after the SEO's and ignore the PR people? Why do people continue to tolerate Google's double standards and two tiered justice?</p>
<p>The example presented in Case A has been examplified here to protect the innocent but if you don't think things like this are going on every day your kidding yourself. In fact Elisabeth Osmeloski wrote about this earlier this year (see <a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3628275">Why All Links Are Paid Links in the Travel Trade</a>). It's not just the travel industry, how many gadgets, cell phones, digital cameras, and even computers are sent high profile bloggers in exchange for visibility and links?</p>
<p>Hey Google Want to prove that  you are being fair and shut me up? Get your human editors to review the top A list bloggers in the technorati 100. Look for posts where gifts were exchanged for links. Put your money where your mouth is and start banning or dinging them for the exact same behavior you are attacking sites in the paid link advertising space for. Start banning and blocking the A List attention whore bloggers, cut off their payola and side income. Something tells me they'll stop singing your praises and a few GB of free Gmail storage wont shut them up or solve the problem. How about it Google prove that you are fair and equal and that justice is blind, because from where I sit your rules are selectively enforced and you take an aggressive hard line stance against internet markters, while little Mary A List gets off scott free </p>
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<p><strong>CASE A</strong><br>
A public relations person starts working for a Bed &amp; Breakfast in New England. The person comes up with the idea of inviting high profile A List bloggers up for an all expense paid weekend, flights, room &amp; board, meals the whole shebang including activities are comp'd. In exchange they ask the bloggers if they had a good time please write about it on their blog and post some pictures to flickr. Total cost of the PR event $10K.</p>
<p><strong>CASE B</strong><br>
An SEO starts working for a Bed &amp; Breakfast in New England. The person comes up with the idea of buying some on topic text link advertising on travel related blogs. Total cost for 6 months of link advertising $10K</p>
<p>So I ask you dear readers and specifically you <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/">Matt Cutts</a> what's the difference? At the end of the day $10K was converted into links. Why does Case A get rewarded and lauded as a success? Why does everyone involved in Case B get called out for being the scourge of the internet? Why are all of the websites in Case B penalized, filtered, or in some cases completely annihilated from any and all internet visibility, while the sites in Case A bask in their ego stroking navel gazing glory?</p>
<p>Why does Google aggressively go after the SEO's and ignore the PR people? Why do people continue to tolerate Google's double standards and two tiered justice?</p>
<p>The example presented in Case A has been examplified here to protect the innocent but if you don't think things like this are going on every day your kidding yourself. In fact Elisabeth Osmeloski wrote about this earlier this year (see <a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=3628275">Why All Links Are Paid Links in the Travel Trade</a>). It's not just the travel industry, how many gadgets, cell phones, digital cameras, and even computers are sent high profile bloggers in exchange for visibility and links?</p>
<p>Hey Google Want to prove that  you are being fair and shut me up? Get your human editors to review the top A list bloggers in the technorati 100. Look for posts where gifts were exchanged for links. Put your money where your mouth is and start banning or dinging them for the exact same behavior you are attacking sites in the paid link advertising space for. Start banning and blocking the A List attention whore bloggers, cut off their payola and side income. Something tells me they'll stop singing your praises and a few GB of free Gmail storage wont shut them up or solve the problem. How about it Google prove that you are fair and equal and that justice is blind, because from where I sit your rules are selectively enforced and you take an aggressive hard line stance against internet markters, while little Mary A List gets off scott free </p>
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         <title>Dell challenges the Eee with... the E?!?!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span><a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/delle.jpg"><img alt="delle.jpg" src="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/delle-thumb-200x165.jpg" width="200" height="165" style="float:right;margin:0 0 20px 20px"></a></span>The sleek, whore-red Dell subnotebook <i>Gizmodo</i> spotted Michael Dell wandering around with at <i>All Things D</i> has been officially announced and named, and it's called the Dell E. I love it. It says everything about Dell: they put together pretty good computers for not a lot of money, but they're so creatively bankrupt that they don't even blink at stealing the product name of their biggest competitor. I mean, you'd at least expect a moist sound  of embarrassment to gurgle out of Dell's PR orifice, but nothing! Oh, Dell, you shameless hussy!

<p>That said, I still really like the looks of these. There will be four models of Es. The standard E is their 8.9-inch contender, while as the E Slim is a 12.1-inch MacBook Air challenger, only 0.8-inches thick. Then there's the E Video and E Video+, which offer more RAM, flash storage, webcams and bluetooth in the 8.9-inch chassis. The operating system will be Windows XP, apparently, but with an instant-on Linux-on-a-chip solution for rapidly booting up and checking your email or doing some browsing. And I'm still guessing that Ubuntu's Netbook Remix OS will at least be an option on these, given Canonical's past history with Dell.</p>

<p>The Dell E will be released in August in a variety of colors, starting at $299. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/12/dell-e-and-e-slim-revealed-taking-on-eee-and-air-in-one-fell-sw/">Dell and E Slim revealed</a> [Engadget]</p><br style="clear:both">
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<p>That said, I still really like the looks of these. There will be four models of Es. The standard E is their 8.9-inch contender, while as the E Slim is a 12.1-inch MacBook Air challenger, only 0.8-inches thick. Then there's the E Video and E Video+, which offer more RAM, flash storage, webcams and bluetooth in the 8.9-inch chassis. The operating system will be Windows XP, apparently, but with an instant-on Linux-on-a-chip solution for rapidly booting up and checking your email or doing some browsing. And I'm still guessing that Ubuntu's Netbook Remix OS will at least be an option on these, given Canonical's past history with Dell.</p>

<p>The Dell E will be released in August in a variety of colors, starting at $299. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/12/dell-e-and-e-slim-revealed-taking-on-eee-and-air-in-one-fell-sw/">Dell and E Slim revealed</a> [Engadget]</p><br style="clear:both">
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         <title>California man successfully scams Google out of $8,225 [Crime]</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><img alt="office_space_crime.jpg" src="http://valleywag.com/assets/resources/2008/05/office_space_crime.jpg" width="250" height="175" align="left" hspace="4" vspace="2">Plumas Lake, California's <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/man-allegedly-b.html">Michael Sargent managed to roll a ton of pennies into a five-figure pay day by gaming E-Trade, Charles Schwab and Google Checkout</a> customer verification systems in an ingenious scheme reminiscent of the one perpetrated by characters Peter, Michael and Samir in 1999's cubicle culture classic <em><a rel="nofollow" title="Click here to read more posts tagged OFFICE SPACE" href="http://valleywag.com/tag/office-space/">Office Space</a></em>.  Using aliases, including character names from <em>Office Space</em> director Mike Judge's cartoon <em>King of the Hill</em>, Largent used a script to sign up for new accounts and then collect the few cents used to verify his checking account information.  In six months he managed to milk E-Trade and Schwab for over $50,000 according to Wired.  And now he's indicted on charges of computer fraud, wire fraud and mail fraud.  But while the Secret Service says he bilked <a rel="nofollow" title="Click here to read more posts tagged GOOGLE CHECKOUT" href="http://valleywag.com/tag/google-checkout/">Google Checkout</a> for $8,225.29, he's not being indicted on charges related to that part of the plan.  Granted, even if he doesn't have to return that money, he'll probably have to spend it on lawyers.</p> <br style="clear:both">
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         <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:40:00 -0500</pubDate>         <guid isPermaLink="false">tag:croncast.com,4082</guid>

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         <title>Now That You Are The Media, Who Owns You?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am really getting to like expressing my feelings over Seesmic. If you are not a member, I strongly recommend going over to www.seesmic.com and signing up (if you still need invites, let me know).</p>
<p><em><strong>Below the video are some links and notes on what I was speaking about.</strong></em></p>
<p></p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051600799.html">Dataportability explained</a>
<ul>
<li>Techcrunch via the Washington PostI will never get sick of  the mainstream media picking up blogs</li>
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</li>
<li> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/01/03/ive-been-kicked-off-of-facebook/">Robert Scoble Gets Shut Down For Attempt at Data Exodus</a>
<ul>
<li>This is old, but once again Scoble shows us he is ahead of his time (or out of his mind. I prefer the former)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2008/05/facebook-leaves-google-friend-connect/">Facebook leaves Google Friend Connect</a>
<ul>
<li>I would love to hear more about this (as I mention in the video). Not just, Facebook is evil. I would love to hear some constructive feedback about what you would do if you were Facebook and you had not make money, not just make people happy <img src="http://amediacirc.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)"> </li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://www.google.com/friendconnect/">Google Friend Connect</a>
<ul>
<li>Again, this is old news for some (well, a week old) but for those of you who do not pride themselves on knowing everything the second it happens, and may need to know more, feel free to email me,<a href="http://amediacirc.us/www.twitter.com/adambroitman"> twitter me</a>, <a href="http://seesmic.com/app#/video/Kd0d0bwpGt/watch">seesmic me</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/profile.asp?piddl_userid=169">Nicole Ferraro at Internet Evolution</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/">Michael Arrington's (de)Centralized Me</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/"><img style="margin:5px" src="http://amediacirc.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/socialmap1.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="396" height="297"></a></p>
<p><small>Tags: <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/seesmic">seesmic</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/twitter">twitter</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/friend+connect">friend connect</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/dataportability">dataportability</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Nicole+Ferraro">Nicole Ferraro</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Robert+Scoble">Robert Scoble</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/TechCrunch">TechCrunch</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/social">social</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/facebook">facebook</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Google+Friend+Connect">Google Friend Connect</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/apps">apps</a></small></p>
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</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AMediaCircus/~4/294236407" height="1" width="1"><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/seesmic">seesmic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/seesmic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/seesmic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/friend">friend</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/friend"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/friend.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/facebook">facebook</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/facebook"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/facebook.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/connect">connect</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/connect"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/connect.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/old">old</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/old"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/old.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really getting to like expressing my feelings over Seesmic. If you are not a member, I strongly recommend going over to www.seesmic.com and signing up (if you still need invites, let me know).</p>
<p><em><strong>Below the video are some links and notes on what I was speaking about.</strong></em></p>
<p></p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051600799.html">Dataportability explained</a>
<ul>
<li>Techcrunch via the Washington PostI will never get sick of  the mainstream media picking up blogs</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/01/03/ive-been-kicked-off-of-facebook/">Robert Scoble Gets Shut Down For Attempt at Data Exodus</a>
<ul>
<li>This is old, but once again Scoble shows us he is ahead of his time (or out of his mind. I prefer the former)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2008/05/facebook-leaves-google-friend-connect/">Facebook leaves Google Friend Connect</a>
<ul>
<li>I would love to hear more about this (as I mention in the video). Not just, Facebook is evil. I would love to hear some constructive feedback about what you would do if you were Facebook and you had not make money, not just make people happy <img src="http://amediacirc.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)"> </li>
</ul>
</li>
<li> <a href="http://www.google.com/friendconnect/">Google Friend Connect</a>
<ul>
<li>Again, this is old news for some (well, a week old) but for those of you who do not pride themselves on knowing everything the second it happens, and may need to know more, feel free to email me,<a href="http://amediacirc.us/www.twitter.com/adambroitman"> twitter me</a>, <a href="http://seesmic.com/app#/video/Kd0d0bwpGt/watch">seesmic me</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/profile.asp?piddl_userid=169">Nicole Ferraro at Internet Evolution</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/">Michael Arrington's (de)Centralized Me</a></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/30/friendfeed-the-centralized-me-and-data-portability/"><img style="margin:5px" src="http://amediacirc.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/socialmap1.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="396" height="297"></a></p>
<p><small>Tags: <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/seesmic">seesmic</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/twitter">twitter</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/friend+connect">friend connect</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/dataportability">dataportability</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Nicole+Ferraro">Nicole Ferraro</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Robert+Scoble">Robert Scoble</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/TechCrunch">TechCrunch</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/social">social</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/facebook">facebook</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Google+Friend+Connect">Google Friend Connect</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/apps">apps</a></small></p>
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</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AMediaCircus/~4/294236407" height="1" width="1"><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/seesmic">seesmic</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/seesmic"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/seesmic.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/friend">friend</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/friend"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/friend.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/facebook">facebook</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/facebook"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/facebook.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/connect">connect</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/connect"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/connect.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/old">old</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/old"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/old.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/company/userplane"><img src="http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/userplanelogo.png"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.userplane.com">Userplane</a>, the company behind Webchat and a number of other online communication services, has introduced a new video app dubbed Mediaplayer.  The free white-label app will allow web publishers to add hosted video uploads to their sites under an ad-supported model.</p>
<p>Mediaplayer users will be able to upload videos as large as 100MB, and there is no limit on the amount of upload or streaming bandwidth they can consume.  For the time being, all ad revenue from Mediaplayer will go to Userplane, but Michael Jones, the company's CEO, says that they hope to introduce the revenue sharing model <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/29/userplane-launches-revenue-sharing-program/">seen</a> on their other apps in the near future.  The current version of the app is restricted to video only, but the next release will feature Minichat, allowing users to chat while they watch clips.  </p>
<p>Mediaplayer should see a significant boost in initial usage from ex-VideoEgg members.  VideoEgg announced last <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/3/videoegg_dumps_video_hosting_clients">March</a> that it would be leaving the free video hosting space, and has named MediaPlayer as one of its recommended replacements.</p>
<p>Userplane was <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/14/userplane-purchased-by-aol/">acquired</a> by AOL in 2006 and, with more than 200,000 publishers, is one of the largest providers of online white-label services.  For the time being their product will see competition from other video hosting sites including <a href="http://www.vsocial.com">VSocial</a> and <a href="http://www.kickapps.com">KickApps</a>, but with the eventual introduction of simultaneous chat they will also face off with <a href="http://www.meebo.com">Meebo</a>and <a href="http://www.videophlow.com">Videophlow</a>, among others.</p>
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</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Techcrunch/~4/294253280" height="1" width="1"><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/video">video</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/video"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/video.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mediaplayer">mediaplayer</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mediaplayer"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mediaplayer.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/userplane">userplane</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/userplane"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/userplane.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/app">app</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/app"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/app.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/hosting">hosting</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/hosting"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/hosting.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.crunchbase.com/company/userplane"><img src="http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/userplanelogo.png"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.userplane.com">Userplane</a>, the company behind Webchat and a number of other online communication services, has introduced a new video app dubbed Mediaplayer.  The free white-label app will allow web publishers to add hosted video uploads to their sites under an ad-supported model.</p>
<p>Mediaplayer users will be able to upload videos as large as 100MB, and there is no limit on the amount of upload or streaming bandwidth they can consume.  For the time being, all ad revenue from Mediaplayer will go to Userplane, but Michael Jones, the company's CEO, says that they hope to introduce the revenue sharing model <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/05/29/userplane-launches-revenue-sharing-program/">seen</a> on their other apps in the near future.  The current version of the app is restricted to video only, but the next release will feature Minichat, allowing users to chat while they watch clips.  </p>
<p>Mediaplayer should see a significant boost in initial usage from ex-VideoEgg members.  VideoEgg announced last <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/3/videoegg_dumps_video_hosting_clients">March</a> that it would be leaving the free video hosting space, and has named MediaPlayer as one of its recommended replacements.</p>
<p>Userplane was <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/14/userplane-purchased-by-aol/">acquired</a> by AOL in 2006 and, with more than 200,000 publishers, is one of the largest providers of online white-label services.  For the time being their product will see competition from other video hosting sites including <a href="http://www.vsocial.com">VSocial</a> and <a href="http://www.kickapps.com">KickApps</a>, but with the eventual introduction of simultaneous chat they will also face off with <a href="http://www.meebo.com">Meebo</a>and <a href="http://www.videophlow.com">Videophlow</a>, among others.</p>
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</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Techcrunch/~4/294253280" height="1" width="1"><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/video">video</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/video"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/video.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/mediaplayer">mediaplayer</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/mediaplayer"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/mediaplayer.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/userplane">userplane</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/userplane"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/userplane.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/app">app</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/app"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/app.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/hosting">hosting</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/hosting"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/hosting.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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         <title>Why FriendFeed won't go mainstream (Part I)</title>
         <link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/18/why-friendfeed-wont-go-mainstream/</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div><br><p>Robert Blum got me to call him an idiot because of <a href="http://twitter.com/groby/statuses/814353615">this Tweet</a>:<em> FriendFeed only helps if you're dedicating your life to following yet another web site.</em></p>
<p>Chris Saad took the conversation in a different direction with <a href="http://twitter.com/ChrisSaad/statuses/814350224">this Tweet</a>: <em>discussion should occur around the target object - if its a blog then in the comments - not on friendfeed. </em>Which, of course, <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/d564843a-ddfc-cb1b-a05d-8a5ff121beb6">got this conversation going</a>.<em><br>
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<p>That got Mobile Jones to agree with Chris Saad on <a href="http://twitter.com/mojosd/statuses/814353285">this Tweet</a>: <em>Chris is on the right end of this.  FF is like is not in the best interests of those who create the content.</em> Which, of course, <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/1c3c6d94-2fe4-7fc6-6f91-702cf1662213">got this conversation going</a>.</p>
<p>Rob LaGesse <a href="http://lagesse.org/robert-scoble-loves-friendfeed-me-not-so-much/">wrote a whole blog post</a> about how he thinks FriendFeed is ugly: <em>The service is ugly (to me).  It has all kinds of crap I don't care about in my feed. </em>Of course that got <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/59cd938c-427c-b92e-30ac-476b5cea4996">this conversation going</a>.<em><br>
</em></p>
<p>Mark Evans goes even further and says <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/18/i-hate-to-be-rude-but/">he just can't deal with anything else</a> that'll steal his attention. Of course that started <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/741bd7ec-e3ae-bd7e-4b97-9e159b4d9a3d">a conversation over on FriendFeed too</a>.</p>
<p>And to put punctuation on this whole story, <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/080518/p12#a080518p12">Corida and others talk about the noise</a> on FriendFeed.</p>
<p>All of these get to the heart of why FriendFeed won't go anywhere other than to early adopter communities who like lots of noise.</p>
<p>I've studied tons of people's reactions to FriendFeed. Here's why it won't go mainstream:</p>
<p>1. Only early adopters care about gluing together various social networks like I do (look at the right side of my blog, for instance, and you'll see travel and schedule and events and photos and videos and more all glued together). Most people aren't on more than one or two services and aren't content creators (of everyone on Upcoming.org, for instance, only a handful of people have more than 5 events and most have none).</p>
<p>2. Normal people (ie, those who aren't on Twitter 18 hours a day) don't like noise. Even on Twitter, what's the number one thing I hear from followers? You're too noisy. FriendFeed brings tons of new noise to normal people, especially if they add a bunch of the friends that FriendFeed recommends (I'm one of them, but the others on that list are among the noisiest people on the Internet). For normal people they can't handle the noise. It's chaotic, confusing, and until they figure out the hide link they will get turned off. Usually when unpassionate or late adopter types get turned off they just hit the back button.</p>
<p>3. There isn't one method of using these services. Some people just want to see their closest friend's baby photos. Other people, like me, want to use these services like a chat room to talk with large numbers of people about today's hottest news. This disconnect pisses both of us off and makes it less likely I'll tell normal users about these services. Of course anyone who reads my blog isn't normal, so I don't mind telling you all about these things incessantly. :-)</p>
<p>4. FriendFeed is frustrating to use even for advanced users. Here, quickly, tell me how you can see only Flickr photos on FriendFeed and block everything else. Hint: there is a way, it's just hard to find. How about, quickly again, tell me how to see all posts that have a comment or a like on them. Sorry, that one isn't possible yet. How about find me all posts from everyone that mentions the word noise in them? Yes, that one is possible, but to do it you gotta get acquainted with FF's advanced search features. At Microsoft we learned no one ever uses those features. Have you figured out how to hide all Twitter messages that don't have a comment on them yet? It's possible too, but you gotta click on the Hide feature and play around. Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating.</p>
<p>5. FriendFeed doesn't work well on mobile phones. Most people around the world use their mobile phones far more often than they use their laptops. So, if you don't have good mobile phone interfaces you can kick your going mainstream dreams in the toilet.</p>
<p>6. Want to find some new friends? The recommended friends feature is pretty cool (albeit frustrating to find) but the problem is you can't figure out why it is presenting the friends it is (hint: it presents the most popular users up front. These are the most noisy users on the service and probably are pretty geeky to boot. People like me, Dave Winer, Louis Gray, Michael Arrington, etc).</p>
<p>7. I can't add new services easily. Qik, for instance, is among my most favorite data type. But how do I get that added? Oh, I gotta add an RSS feed for services that aren't already in the system. But then the videos don't look as nice as, say, YouTube's or Flickr's. That's disappointing.</p>
<p>8. It pisses bloggers off because all their comments are moving onto FriendFeed rather than staying on their blogs. Watch this post, I bet I get more comments over on FriendFeed than here. Now this one does NOT piss me off. I don't really care where you talk about my ideas and I'll go wherever the audience goes (which is why I often commented on other people's blogs). But they do have a point. It'd be nice if bloggers got warned when a conversation was happening about what they wrote and if there were an easy way to join FriendFeed comments and conversations into their own blog commenting systems. When bloggers get pissed off they tend to talk less about new services, which retards their ability to go mainstream.</p>
<p>9. Comments get fragmented, even inside FriendFeed. Why? Well, let's say you write a really great blog post. You'll get shared on tons of people's Google Reader shared feeds. Some comments happen on Louis Gray's FriendFeed. Some happen on mine. Others happen on Thomas Hawk's. Still others happen on other people's feeds. Everyone has their own audience which gets involved and now we have duplicate items all over the place (noise, and not the fun kind) and comment fragmentation.</p>
<p>Well, that's enough. There's more, but these are the biggies, I think. Got any other reasons why FriendFeed won't go mainstream? You know where to leave a comment. I'll be watching for it.</p>
<p>This is part I. In second part I'll explain why FriendFeed will go mainstream.</p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/aaac48b5-94d2-b5e8-137c-ecb690d486b8">We're discussing this post over on FriendFeed too</a>.</p>
<img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/categories/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/tags/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/scobleizer.wordpress.com/4247/"></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=scobleizer.com&amp;blog=3428&amp;post=4247&amp;subd=scobleizer&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1"></div><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/friendfeed">friendfeed</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/friendfeed"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/friendfeed.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/services">services</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/services"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/services.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/noise">noise</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/noise"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/noise.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/comments">comments</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/comments"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/comments.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/than">than</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/than"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/than.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><br><p>Robert Blum got me to call him an idiot because of <a href="http://twitter.com/groby/statuses/814353615">this Tweet</a>:<em> FriendFeed only helps if you're dedicating your life to following yet another web site.</em></p>
<p>Chris Saad took the conversation in a different direction with <a href="http://twitter.com/ChrisSaad/statuses/814350224">this Tweet</a>: <em>discussion should occur around the target object - if its a blog then in the comments - not on friendfeed. </em>Which, of course, <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/d564843a-ddfc-cb1b-a05d-8a5ff121beb6">got this conversation going</a>.<em><br>
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<p>That got Mobile Jones to agree with Chris Saad on <a href="http://twitter.com/mojosd/statuses/814353285">this Tweet</a>: <em>Chris is on the right end of this.  FF is like is not in the best interests of those who create the content.</em> Which, of course, <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/1c3c6d94-2fe4-7fc6-6f91-702cf1662213">got this conversation going</a>.</p>
<p>Rob LaGesse <a href="http://lagesse.org/robert-scoble-loves-friendfeed-me-not-so-much/">wrote a whole blog post</a> about how he thinks FriendFeed is ugly: <em>The service is ugly (to me).  It has all kinds of crap I don't care about in my feed. </em>Of course that got <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/59cd938c-427c-b92e-30ac-476b5cea4996">this conversation going</a>.<em><br>
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<p>Mark Evans goes even further and says <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/18/i-hate-to-be-rude-but/">he just can't deal with anything else</a> that'll steal his attention. Of course that started <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/741bd7ec-e3ae-bd7e-4b97-9e159b4d9a3d">a conversation over on FriendFeed too</a>.</p>
<p>And to put punctuation on this whole story, <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/080518/p12#a080518p12">Corida and others talk about the noise</a> on FriendFeed.</p>
<p>All of these get to the heart of why FriendFeed won't go anywhere other than to early adopter communities who like lots of noise.</p>
<p>I've studied tons of people's reactions to FriendFeed. Here's why it won't go mainstream:</p>
<p>1. Only early adopters care about gluing together various social networks like I do (look at the right side of my blog, for instance, and you'll see travel and schedule and events and photos and videos and more all glued together). Most people aren't on more than one or two services and aren't content creators (of everyone on Upcoming.org, for instance, only a handful of people have more than 5 events and most have none).</p>
<p>2. Normal people (ie, those who aren't on Twitter 18 hours a day) don't like noise. Even on Twitter, what's the number one thing I hear from followers? You're too noisy. FriendFeed brings tons of new noise to normal people, especially if they add a bunch of the friends that FriendFeed recommends (I'm one of them, but the others on that list are among the noisiest people on the Internet). For normal people they can't handle the noise. It's chaotic, confusing, and until they figure out the hide link they will get turned off. Usually when unpassionate or late adopter types get turned off they just hit the back button.</p>
<p>3. There isn't one method of using these services. Some people just want to see their closest friend's baby photos. Other people, like me, want to use these services like a chat room to talk with large numbers of people about today's hottest news. This disconnect pisses both of us off and makes it less likely I'll tell normal users about these services. Of course anyone who reads my blog isn't normal, so I don't mind telling you all about these things incessantly. :-)</p>
<p>4. FriendFeed is frustrating to use even for advanced users. Here, quickly, tell me how you can see only Flickr photos on FriendFeed and block everything else. Hint: there is a way, it's just hard to find. How about, quickly again, tell me how to see all posts that have a comment or a like on them. Sorry, that one isn't possible yet. How about find me all posts from everyone that mentions the word noise in them? Yes, that one is possible, but to do it you gotta get acquainted with FF's advanced search features. At Microsoft we learned no one ever uses those features. Have you figured out how to hide all Twitter messages that don't have a comment on them yet? It's possible too, but you gotta click on the Hide feature and play around. Frustrating, frustrating, frustrating.</p>
<p>5. FriendFeed doesn't work well on mobile phones. Most people around the world use their mobile phones far more often than they use their laptops. So, if you don't have good mobile phone interfaces you can kick your going mainstream dreams in the toilet.</p>
<p>6. Want to find some new friends? The recommended friends feature is pretty cool (albeit frustrating to find) but the problem is you can't figure out why it is presenting the friends it is (hint: it presents the most popular users up front. These are the most noisy users on the service and probably are pretty geeky to boot. People like me, Dave Winer, Louis Gray, Michael Arrington, etc).</p>
<p>7. I can't add new services easily. Qik, for instance, is among my most favorite data type. But how do I get that added? Oh, I gotta add an RSS feed for services that aren't already in the system. But then the videos don't look as nice as, say, YouTube's or Flickr's. That's disappointing.</p>
<p>8. It pisses bloggers off because all their comments are moving onto FriendFeed rather than staying on their blogs. Watch this post, I bet I get more comments over on FriendFeed than here. Now this one does NOT piss me off. I don't really care where you talk about my ideas and I'll go wherever the audience goes (which is why I often commented on other people's blogs). But they do have a point. It'd be nice if bloggers got warned when a conversation was happening about what they wrote and if there were an easy way to join FriendFeed comments and conversations into their own blog commenting systems. When bloggers get pissed off they tend to talk less about new services, which retards their ability to go mainstream.</p>
<p>9. Comments get fragmented, even inside FriendFeed. Why? Well, let's say you write a really great blog post. You'll get shared on tons of people's Google Reader shared feeds. Some comments happen on Louis Gray's FriendFeed. Some happen on mine. Others happen on Thomas Hawk's. Still others happen on other people's feeds. Everyone has their own audience which gets involved and now we have duplicate items all over the place (noise, and not the fun kind) and comment fragmentation.</p>
<p>Well, that's enough. There's more, but these are the biggies, I think. Got any other reasons why FriendFeed won't go mainstream? You know where to leave a comment. I'll be watching for it.</p>
<p>This is part I. In second part I'll explain why FriendFeed will go mainstream.</p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/aaac48b5-94d2-b5e8-137c-ecb690d486b8">We're discussing this post over on FriendFeed too</a>.</p>
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			<description><![CDATA[The Thomas case in Minnesota has been watched worldwide, mostly for the amount of the jury verdict awarded. Thomas moved for a new trial, or alternatively <span>remittur</span> on the ground that the amount of the jury award was unconstitutionally excessive. Today, district judge Michael Davis issued an order indicating he may order a new trial based on an entirely different ground: concern that Jury Instruction N. 15, which permitted the jury to find infringement based on the <span>RIAA's</span> making available theory, may be contrary to the Eighth Circuit's binding precedent in National Car Rental System, Inc. v. Computer Associates, Inc., requiring the distribution of actual copies. (HT to Andy Bridges).<br><br>In my view, the making available theory is contrary to National Car Rental, to say nothing of the statute. Judge Davis also took note of the Howell decision. He has set briefing on the issue for May 29, 2008 at noon, with reply briefs set for June 5, 2008 at noon, and oral argument on July 1st.<br><br>This is a big deal.<br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/jury">jury</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/jury"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/jury.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/thomas">thomas</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/thomas"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/thomas.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/making">making</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/making"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/making.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/based">based</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/based"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/based.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/judge">judge</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/judge"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/judge.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[The Thomas case in Minnesota has been watched worldwide, mostly for the amount of the jury verdict awarded. Thomas moved for a new trial, or alternatively <span>remittur</span> on the ground that the amount of the jury award was unconstitutionally excessive. Today, district judge Michael Davis issued an order indicating he may order a new trial based on an entirely different ground: concern that Jury Instruction N. 15, which permitted the jury to find infringement based on the <span>RIAA's</span> making available theory, may be contrary to the Eighth Circuit's binding precedent in National Car Rental System, Inc. v. Computer Associates, Inc., requiring the distribution of actual copies. (HT to Andy Bridges).<br><br>In my view, the making available theory is contrary to National Car Rental, to say nothing of the statute. Judge Davis also took note of the Howell decision. He has set briefing on the issue for May 29, 2008 at noon, with reply briefs set for June 5, 2008 at noon, and oral argument on July 1st.<br><br>This is a big deal.<br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/jury">jury</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/jury"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/jury.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/thomas">thomas</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/thomas"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/thomas.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/making">making</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/making"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/making.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/based">based</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/based"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/based.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/judge">judge</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/judge"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/judge.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></content:encoded>

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			<description><![CDATA[<img src="http://www.louisgray.com/graphics/disqus_125.jpg" hspace="5" vspace="5" align="left">It's only been a few weeks since I <a href="http://www.louisgray.com/live/2008/04/disqus-excellent-customer-service.html">integrated Disqus commenting</a> with my blog, but I've already reached the point where it would be hard to consider what life was like before Disqus came along. Overnight, with the help of Daniel Ha's excellent customer service, I went from flat Blogger comments that were a hassle to simplified, threaded, personalized comments in Disqus, which integrate easily with other services I use, including <a href="http://friendfeed.com/louisgray?service=disqus">FriendFeed</a>.<br><br>Today, <a href="http://www.disqus.com">Disqus</a> is looking to take things to another level, offering integration with <a href="http://www.seesmic.com">Seesmic</a> for video comments. Now, all bloggers using Disqus as their comments engine have the option to enable viewers to leave a video response, and not just a simple text comment.<br><br>While video comments haven't yet reached the mainstream, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com">TechCrunch</a>,  whose Michael Arrington is an investor in Seesmic, deployed the feature not too long ago. By integrating with Disqus, this should provide Seesmic with a much wider base for distribution, especially among leading technology bloggers, who are rapidly making Disqus a standard.<br><br>I'm happy to report that as of this morning, this site is one of the first to integrate Seesmic video comments with Disqus. Soon, you just might even see me leaving midnight video rants around the blogosphere. If you're willing to take a risk, try out the new video commenting system, and let me know what you think!<div>More: <a href="http://www.louisgray.com/live">louisgray.com</a> | <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LouisgraycomLive">RSS</a> | <a href="http://friendfeed.com/louisgray">FriendFeed</a> | <a href="mailto:louisgray@mac.com">E-mail</a> | Cell: 408 646.2759</div><div>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft withdrawing its offer to buy Yahoo is a sufficiently large story to demonstrate the problem of redundant news content on the web. <a href="http://news.google.com/?ncl=1154376246&amp;hl=en&amp;topic=b&amp;scoring=n">Google News</a> is currently tracking about 2,000 versions of this story. To get a better sense of why it's a problem to have 2,000 stories about the SAME THING, I've reproduced about ten percent of them below  just the headlines and ledes. If you have the stomach to scroll through them all to see what else I have to say about it, check out the sources as you scroll:</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> The Google News example is <a href="http://publishing2.com/google-news-microsoft-yahoo-example/">reproduced here</a> instead. You're reading this in RSS or email a day after I posted it because this post was so large it broke my Feedburner feed. Too much content breaks the web  there you have it. Keep reading for my original argument.</p>
<p>If you've made it this far, you may have noticed the absence of blogs from the sources. So this is far from a representative sample of all of the websites that published a version of this news story.</p>
<p>Let's check out <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/h1140">Techmeme</a>, again reproduced in its entirety, because seeing is disbelieving:</p>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p45#a080503p45"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releases.cfm">Yahoo!</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Yahoo! Issues Statement in Response to Microsoft</a></strong>   SUNNYVALE, Calif., May 03, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE)  Roy Bostock, Chairman of Yahoo! Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO), a leading global Internet company issued the following statement today in response to Microsoft Corporation's announcement that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo!:</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-responds/">TechCrunch</a>, <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/2008/05/microsoft-backs-down-from-yahoo.php">StepForth SEO News Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/walking_away.html">BBC NEWS</a>, <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503end.html">Forbes</a>, <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16940.html">I4U News</a>, <a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/microsoft/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-proposal.html">VoIP Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007899.html">Geek News Central</a>, <a href="http://furrier.org/2008/05/04/victory-for-silicon-valley-the-silicon-valley-poison-pill-worked-as-predicted/">Furrier.org</a>, <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/05/03/ballmer-calls-yangs-bluff-microsoft-walks/">Tech Trader Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2008/05/04/yahoo-responds-to-withdrawal-issues-statement.aspx">LiveSide</a>, <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/yahoos_response.html">Paul Kedrosky's </a> and <a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21588D139CAFEFE462%211258.entry">Geek Speaker</a></p>
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<div><cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-responds/">Yahoo Responds: The distraction of Microsoft's unsolicited proposal now behind us</a></div>
<div><cite>Ross Dunn / <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/index.php">StepForth SEO News Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/2008/05/microsoft-backs-down-from-yahoo.php">Microsoft Backs Down from Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Darren Waters / <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/">BBC NEWS | dot.life</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/walking_away.html">Walking away</a></div>
<div><cite>Elizabeth Corcoran / <a href="http://www.forbes.com/">Forbes</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503end.html">What Microsoft Will Buy Now    Expect to hear more from Steve Ballmer.</a></div>
<div><cite>Luigi Lugmayr / <a href="http://www.i4u.com/">I4U News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16940.html">Yahoo's Response to Microsoft's Bid Withdrawal</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/">VoIP Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/microsoft/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-proposal.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Proposal</a></div>
<div><cite>Todd Cochrane / <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/">Geek News Central</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007899.html">Yahoo is Toast and Yang needs to be Fired</a></div>
<div><cite>John Furrier / <a href="http://furrier.org/">Furrier.org</a>:</cite> <a href="http://furrier.org/2008/05/04/victory-for-silicon-valley-the-silicon-valley-poison-pill-worked-as-predicted/">Victory for Silicon Valley; The Silicon Valley Poison Pill Worked - As Predicted</a></div>
<div><cite>Eric Savitz / <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily">Tech Trader Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/05/03/ballmer-calls-yangs-bluff-microsoft-walks/">Ballmer Calls Yang's Bluff: Microsoft Walks</a></div>
<div><cite>Kip Kniskern / <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/">LiveSide</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2008/05/04/yahoo-responds-to-withdrawal-issues-statement.aspx">Yahoo! responds to withdrawal - issues statement</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite> <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/yahoos_response.html">Yahoo's Response to Microsoft's Response to Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/">Geek Speaker</a>:</cite> <a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21588D139CAFEFE462%211258.entry">Why Yahoo is worth more than 50 billion &amp; why Yahoo! For Good  </a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p34#a080503p34"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.mspx">Microsoft</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Microsoft Withdraws Proposal to Acquire Yahoo!</a></strong>   Microsoft Corp. today announced that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo! Inc.    Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ: MSFT) today announced that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ: YHOO).</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080504-104940.php">Search Engine Land</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1029">Googling Google</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8714">Between the Lines</a>, <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935249-7.html">CNET News.com</a>, <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/05/04/microsoft-yahoo-web-workers/">Web Worker Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/microsoftyahoo-summary-of-news-bonus-gillmor-gang/">TechCrunch</a>, <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2008/05/msft-and-yhoo-its-finally-over/">WeBreakStuff</a>, <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/05/04/yahoo-blows-it-how-low-will-they-go/">Simon's Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16939.html">I4U News</a>, <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news/2008/05/04/microsoft-withdraws-offer-for-yahoo/">Microsoft News Tracker</a>, <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2008/05/microsoft_to_yahoo_never_mind_1.html">TechBlog</a>, <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/will-microsoft-really-walk/">DealBook</a>, <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467031.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>, <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/88917/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.html">Pocket PC Thoughts.com</a>, <a href="http://www.techspot.com/news/29921-Weekend-tech-reading-504.html">TechSpot</a>, <a href="http://joeduck.com/2008/05/03/ballmer-has-left-the-building/">Joe Duck</a>, <a href="http://techbays.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-the-no-votes-win/">TechBays</a>, <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/05/microsoft-walks.html">Epicenter</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1376">All about Microsoft</a>, <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/16582/microsoft_abandons_yahoo_takeover">Digital Trends</a>, <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-pulls-plug-on-yahoo.html">SEO and Tech Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/5646">Alice Hill's Real Tech News</a>, <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/03/lets-get-the-yahoo-microsoft-blogging-party-started/">Mark Evans</a>, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-na-microsoft4-2008may04,0,1142949.story">Los Angeles Times</a>, <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/ballmers-letter-to-jerry-yang.php">WebGuild</a>, <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-corporation-rescinds-offer-for-yahoo-inc/">Mashable!</a>, <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/138070.asp">Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog</a>, <a href="http://valleywag.com/386898/ballmer-to-yang-how-stupid-are-you">Valleywag</a>, <a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/05/microsoft-unable-to-buy-yahoo/">Quick Online Tips</a>, <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-bid-over/">GigaOM</a>, <a href="http://www.profy.com/2008/05/03/microsot-withdraws-yahoo-bid/">Profy.Com</a>, <a href="http://www.appscout.com/2008/05/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_bid.php">AppScout</a>, <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/080503-213942.html">ClickZ News Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/04/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_offer/">The Register</a> and <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/the-first-friendfeed-event-msft-and-yhoo/">Scobleizer</a></p>
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<div><cite>Danny Sullivan / <a href="http://searchengineland.com/">Search Engine Land</a>:</cite> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080504-104940.php">Leaving Las Yahoo: Microsoft's $5 Billion Mistake?</a></div>
<div><cite>Garett Rogers / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google">Googling Google</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1029">Microsoft withrawls bid for Yahoo, Google wins</a></div>
<div><cite>Larry Dignan / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL">Between the Lines</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8714">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo: Assessing winners, losers and Plan Bs</a></div>
<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935249-7.html">Yahoo-Google ad deal could be announced next week</a></div>
<div><cite>Mike Gunderloy / <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/">Web Worker Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/05/04/microsoft-yahoo-web-workers/">Microsoft, Yahoo, and Web Workers</a></div>
<div><cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/microsoftyahoo-summary-of-news-bonus-gillmor-gang/">Microsoft/Yahoo: Summary Of Today's News &amp; Bonus Gillmor Gang</a></div>
<div><cite>Fred Oliveira / <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/">WeBreakStuff</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2008/05/msft-and-yhoo-its-finally-over/">MSFT and YHOO: It's finally over</a></div>
<div><cite>Simon Brocklehurst / <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog">Simon's Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/05/04/yahoo-blows-it-how-low-will-they-go/">YAHOO! BLOWS IT - HOW LOW WILL THEY GO?</a></div>
<div><cite>Luigi Lugmayr / <a href="http://www.i4u.com/">I4U News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16939.html">Microsoft officially withdraws Yahoo Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>David Hunter / <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news">Microsoft News Tracker</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news/2008/05/04/microsoft-withdraws-offer-for-yahoo/">Microsoft withdraws offer for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Dwight / <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/">TechBlog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2008/05/microsoft_to_yahoo_never_mind_1.html">Microsoft to Yahoo: Never mind</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/">DealBook</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/will-microsoft-really-walk/">Will Microsoft Really Walk?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/default.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467031.aspx">Yahoo Prevails    Microsoft Withdraws Proposal to Acquire Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Darius Wey / <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/">Pocket PC Thoughts.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/88917/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.html">Microsoft Walks Away From Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Julio Franco / <a href="http://www.techspot.com/">TechSpot</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techspot.com/news/29921-Weekend-tech-reading-504.html">Weekend tech reading (5.04)</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://joeduck.com/">Joe Duck</a>:</cite> <a href="http://joeduck.com/2008/05/03/ballmer-has-left-the-building/">Ballmer has left the Building</a></div>
<div><cite>Carlo Maglinao / <a href="http://techbays.com/">TechBays</a>:</cite> <a href="http://techbays.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-the-no-votes-win/">Microsoft Yahoo! Deal: the NO votes win</a></div>
<div><cite>Betsy Schiffman / <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/">Epicenter</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/05/microsoft-walks.html">Microsoft Walks! Says Yahoo Demands Don't Make Sense</a></div>
<div><cite>Mary Jo Foley / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft">All about Microsoft</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1376">Microsoft takes its ball and leaves Yahoo on the Web 2.0 playground</a></div>
<div><cite>Geoff Duncan / <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/">Digital Trends</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/16582/microsoft_abandons_yahoo_takeover">Microsoft Abandons Yahoo Takeover</a></div>
<div><cite>Charlie Anzman / <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/">SEO and Tech Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-pulls-plug-on-yahoo.html">Microsoft pulls the plug on Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Michael Santo / <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/">Alice Hill's Real Tech News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/5646">No Microhoo: Microsoft Walks Away from Yahoo! Deal</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/">Mark Evans</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/03/lets-get-the-yahoo-microsoft-blogging-party-started/">Let's Get the (Yahoo-Microsoft Blogging Party) Started</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.latimes.com/">Los Angeles Times</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-na-microsoft4-2008may04,0,1142949.story">Microsoft drops bid to acquire Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Joseph Hunkins / <a href="http://www.webguild.org/index.php">WebGuild</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/ballmers-letter-to-jerry-yang.php">Ballmer's Letter to Jerry Yang Withdrawing Microsoft's Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Paul Glazowski / <a href="http://mashable.com/">Mashable!</a>:</cite> <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-corporation-rescinds-offer-for-yahoo-inc/">Breaking: Microsoft Corporation Rescinds Offer For Yahoo Inc</a></div>
<div><cite>Todd Bishop / <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft">Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/138070.asp">Ballmer's internal e-mail on Yahoo decision</a></div>
<div><cite>Owen Thomas / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386898/ballmer-to-yang-how-stupid-are-you">Ballmer to Yang: How stupid are you?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/">Quick Online Tips</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/05/microsoft-unable-to-buy-yahoo/">Microsoft Unable to Buy Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Om Malik / <a href="http://gigaom.com/">GigaOM</a>:</cite> <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-bid-over/">Microsoft To Yahoo: Take a Hike!</a></div>
<div><cite>Cyndy Aleo-Carreira / <a href="http://www.profy.com/">Profy.Com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.profy.com/2008/05/03/microsot-withdraws-yahoo-bid/">Steve Stands Jerry Up for the Internet Prom</a></div>
<div><cite>Brian Heater / <a href="http://www.appscout.com/">AppScout</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.appscout.com/2008/05/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_bid.php">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo! Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Anna Maria Virzi / <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/">ClickZ News Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/080503-213942.html">Microsoft Withdraws Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Drew Cullen / <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/">The Register</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/04/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_offer/">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Scoble / <a href="http://scobleizer.com/">Scobleizer</a>:</cite> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/the-first-friendfeed-event-msft-and-yhoo/">The First FriendFeed Event: MSFT and YHOO</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/microhoo-the-odd-couple-meetings-led-nowhere/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i48.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p48#a080503p48"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/microhoo-the-odd-couple-meetings-led-nowhere/">MicroHoo: The Odd Couple Meetings Led Nowhere</a></strong>   After today's events, I guess you could say Yahoo and Microsoft tried, holding a series of meetings about a possible takeover that ended up proving exactly how incompatible the companies were.    Kind of like Oscar Madison and Felix Unger, but not funny in any way at all.</div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8708">Between the Lines</a>, <a href="http://valleywag.com/386890/yahoos-37-demand-talks-microsofts-33-offer-walks">Valleywag</a> and <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/first_ticktock.html">Paul Kedrosky's </a></p>
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<div><cite>Larry Dignan / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL">Between the Lines</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8708">Microsoft walks: Five reasons why it's a good move</a></div>
<div><cite>Jackson West / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386890/yahoos-37-demand-talks-microsofts-33-offer-walks">YAHOO'S $37 DEMAND TALKS, MICROSOFT'S $33 OFFER WALKS   Microsoft  </a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite> <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/first_ticktock.html">First Tick-Tock of Da Deal Gone Dead</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p7#a080504p7"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">OK, so what's Microsoft's plan B?</a></strong>   With Yahoo apparently off the table, it's time to see what Microsoft's back-up plan looks like.    Microsoft has said for some time that it has a strategy with or without Yahoo, but it's a strategy clearly in need of a jump-start.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/05/ballmer-now-looking-for-other-companies.html">The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs</a> and <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/general/2008/05/04/steve-ballmer-as-the-creature/">About Mobility Weblog</a></p>
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<div><cite>Steve / <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/">The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs</a>:</cite> <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/05/ballmer-now-looking-for-other-companies.html">Ballmer now looking for other companies to not buy</a></div>
<div><cite>Ceo / <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/">About Mobility Weblog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/general/2008/05/04/steve-ballmer-as-the-creature/">Steve Ballmer as The Creature</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p5#a080504p5"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/">DealBook</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/guessing-yahoos-opening-stock-price/">Guessing Yahoo's Opening Stock Price</a></strong>   Well, Yahoo seems to have gotten what it wanted.    The company managed to fend off Microsoft's unwanted advances, even after the software giant sweetened its bid by $5 billion  an amount Yahoo felt still wasn't enough.</div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/why_yahoo_yhoo_should_go_ahead_with_google_outsourcing_deal_goog_">Silicon Alley Insider</a> and <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/ack-microsoft-walks-away-winner-google/">Terry Heaton's PoMo Blog</a></p>
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<div><cite>Henry Blodget / <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/">Silicon Alley Insider</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/why_yahoo_yhoo_should_go_ahead_with_google_outsourcing_deal_goog_">Why Yahoo (YHOO) Should Go Ahead With Google Outsourcing Deal (GOOG)</a></div>
<div><cite>Terry Heaton / <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/">Terry Heaton's PoMo Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/ack-microsoft-walks-away-winner-google/">Ack!  Microsoft walks away.  Winner?  Google.</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120986002095265343.html"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/i8.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p8#a080504p8"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/us">Wall Street Journal</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120986002095265343.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer After Attempt to Bridge Gap in Price</a></strong>   Microsoft Corp. said it abandoned its offer for Yahoo Inc., as the two companies failed to bridge a gap between them on price.    Microsoft Saturday released a letter from Chief Executive Steve Ballmer </div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-offer-after.html">Peter O'Kelly's Reality Check</a> and <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/05/microsoft_drops.html">Tech Beat</a></p>
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<div><cite>Peter / <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/">Peter O'Kelly's Reality Check</a>:</cite> <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-offer-after.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer After Attempt to Bridge Gap in Price - WSJ.com</a></div>
<div><cite>Rob Hof / <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/">Tech Beat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/05/microsoft_drops.html">Microsoft Drops Yahoo BidAt Least For Now</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p3#a080504p3"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Dawn Kawamoto / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Report: A peek behind the Yahoo-Microsoft meltdown</a></strong>   Curious how Microsoft's multi-multi-multi-billion dollar buyout bid for Yahoo sputtered, then crashed?    Kara Swisher's BoomTown column in All Things Digital has an interesting account of the missteps, sidesteps </div>
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<div><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/i2.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p2#a080504p2"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Yahoo's Nightmare Scenario: I'm From Google and I'm Here to Help!</a></strong>   Here's what a top-notch source at Yahoo joked to me tonight, after Microsoft walked away from its unsolicited takeover bid to acquire the long-troubled Internet giant.    Google is now officially our best friend.    Oh no.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Charlene Li / <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/">Groundswell</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/05/with-the-micros.html">What's next for Microsoft and Yahoo!</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i49.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p49#a080503p49"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Yahoo's Tough Week Ahead</a></strong>   At around 4:30 California time today news broke that Microsoft has formally withdrawn its offer to acquire Yahoo (see Ballmer's email to Microsoft employees here).    Among other things, that ends a three month stock party where the market value of Yahoo jumped </div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/05/04/microsoft_walks_out_of_yahoo_deal_updated.html">Guardian Unlimited</a>, <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/the_microsoftyahoo_blame_game.html">Microsoft Watch</a>, <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/05/yahoomicrosoft_dramatakeover_t.html">MediaShift</a> and <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467040.aspx">Paul Mooney</a></p>
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<div><cite>Jack Schofield / <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/">Guardian Unlimited</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/05/04/microsoft_walks_out_of_yahoo_deal_updated.html">Microsoft walks out of Yahoo deal (updated)</a></div>
<div><cite>Joe Wilcox / <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/">Microsoft Watch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/the_microsoftyahoo_blame_game.html">The Microsoft-Yahoo Blame Game</a></div>
<div><cite>Mark Glaser / <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/">MediaShift</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/05/yahoomicrosoft_dramatakeover_t.html">Yahoo-Microsoft Drama::Takeover Tiff Best Thing to Happen to Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/default.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467040.aspx">A YAHOO RUN, OR A RUN ON YHOO?</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p1#a080504p1"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Yi-Wyn Yen / <a href="http://www.fortune.com/">Fortune</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Blame it on Google</a></strong>   Microsoft CEO Ballmer said the software giant decided to walk away from a bid because Yahoo would become undesirable' if it formed an alliance with Google.    (Fortune)  Google proved to be the final straw that broke Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's back.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ballmers_folly_ends_microsoft_abandons_yahoo_bid_because_of_google/">MacDailyNews</a> and <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/technology/microsoft_yahoo/">CNNMoney.com</a></p>
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<div><cite><a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/">MacDailyNews</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ballmers_folly_ends_microsoft_abandons_yahoo_bid_because_of_google/">Ballmer's Folly ends: Microsoft abandons Yahoo bid because of Google</a></div>
<div><cite>Mark M. Meinero / <a href="http://money.cnn.com/">CNNMoney.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/technology/microsoft_yahoo/">Microsoft withdraws bid for Yahoo</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p38#a080503p38"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Analysis of the Microsoft Decision, Plus Yahoo's Hari-Kari</a></strong>   Here is my first-cut analysis of what has happened here:   On the friendly front, Yahoo drew a hard line at $37 per share, well above the $33 that Microsoft now says it told Yahoo this week it was willing to go</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/905-Microhoo-no-more......html">broadstuff</a></p>
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<div><cite>Alan Patrick / <a href="http://broadstuff.com/">broadstuff</a>:</cite> <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/905-Microhoo-no-more......html">MICROHOO NO MORE..  So the deal is off - though whether  </a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p42#a080503p42"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Email From Steve Ballmer To All Microsoft Employees</a></strong>   The following email was sent to all Microsoft employees from CEO Steve Ballmer at 5:17 pm PDT (see Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Bid; Walks Away From Deal):    To: Microsoft - All Employees (QBDG)</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/05/04/microsoft-drops-plans-to-buy-yahoo/">InsideMicrosoft</a>, <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/04/microsoft-is-done-pursuing-yahoo">WebProNews</a>, <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-now-has-50-billion-burning-a-hole-in-its-pocket/">VentureBeat</a> and <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/steve-ballmers-email-to-microsoft-employees.html">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a></p>
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<div><cite>Nathan Weinberg / <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/">InsideMicrosoft</a>:</cite> <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/05/04/microsoft-drops-plans-to-buy-yahoo/">Microsoft Drops Plans To Buy Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Nathan Weinberg / <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/">WebProNews</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/04/microsoft-is-done-pursuing-yahoo">Microsoft Is Done Pursuing Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>MG Siegler / <a href="http://venturebeat.com/">VentureBeat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-now-has-50-billion-burning-a-hole-in-its-pocket/">Microsoft now has $50 billion burning a hole in its pocket</a></div>
<div><cite>David Snyder / <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/steve-ballmers-email-to-microsoft-employees.html">Steve Ballmer's Email to Microsoft Employees</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i33.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p33#a080503p33"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Bid; Walks Away From Deal (Updated)</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite> <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080504/boomtown-decodes-microsofts-steve-ballmers-letter-to-yahoo-the-kiss-off-edition/">BoomTown Decodes Microsoft's Steve Ballmer's Letter to Yahoo (The Kiss-Off Edition)</a></div>
<div><cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935169-56.html">Ballmer's e-mail to staff on Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/i/578">Reuters</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080504/ts_nm/microsoft_yahoo_dc">Microsoft says it withdraws offer for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten / <a href="http://thenextweb.org/">The Next Web</a>:</cite> <a href="http://thenextweb.org/2008/05/04/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo-deal/">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo deal</a></div>
<div><cite>Rory Cellan-Jones / <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/">BBC NEWS | dot.life</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/microsoft_v_yahoo_postmatch_an.html">Microsoft v Yahoo - post-match analysis</a></div>
<div><cite>Charles Cooper / <a href="http://www.news.com/coops-corner/">Coop's Corner</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9935123-60.html">Post-Microhoo: Winners and losers</a></div>
<div><cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://voices.allthingsd.com/">Voices</a>:</cite> <a href="http://voices.allthingsd.com/20080504/microsofts-move-is-it-just-a-feint/">Microsoft's Move: Is It Just a Feint?</a></div>
<div><cite>Kip Kniskern / <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/">LiveSide</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/archive/2008/05/04/no-msft-yhoo-deal-now-what.aspx">No MSFT-YHOO deal; now what?    Microsoft just walked away  </a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.electronista.com/">Electronista</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/03/microsoft.nixes.yahoo.bid/">Microsoft backs out of Yahoo bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Owen Thomas / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386896/is-ballmer-on-his-way-out-++-and-if-so-whos-the-next-ceo">Is Ballmer on his way out  and if so, who's the next CEO?</a></div>
<div><cite>Mathew / <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work">mathewingram.com/work</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/03/yhoo-and-msft-jerry-yang-should-be-fired/">YHOO and MSFT: Jerry Yang should be fired</a></div>
<div><cite>Ben Worthen / <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech">Business Technology</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/05/03/the-most-famous-non-deal-in-tech-history/">The Most Famous Non-Deal in Tech History</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://sarahlacy.typepad.com/sarahlacy/">Sarah Lacy</a>:</cite> <a href="http://sarahlacy.typepad.com/sarahlacy/2008/05/or-maybe-i-wont.html">Or Maybe I Won't Be Working for the Evil Empire</a></div>
<div><cite>Dave McClure / <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/">Master of 500 Hats</a>:</cite> <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2008/05/memo-to-jerry-p.html">MicroHooFreude!  (Memo to Jerry: Prepare to be Sued)</a></div>
<div><cite>Thomas Hawk / <a href="http://thomashawk.com/">Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection</a>:</cite> <a href="http://thomashawk.com/2008/05/remember-when-thomas-hawk-said-if-he.html">Remember When Thomas Hawk Said If He Were Microsoft He'd Lower His Bid for Yahoo?</a></div>
<div><cite>Arnold Zafra / <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/">Search Engine Journal</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-walks-off-the-deal-finally/6839/">Microsoft Cancels the Yahoo Acquisition Deal, Finally!</a></div>
<div><cite>Steven Hodson / <a href="http://www.winextra.com/">WinExtra</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.winextra.com/2008/05/03/please-tell-me-its-so/">Please tell me it's so</a></div>
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<strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html?partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss">Microsoft Withdraws Its Bid for Yahoo</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935209-7.html">Yahoo: Microsoft's price just wasn't right</a></div>
<div><cite>Ritholtz / <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/">The Big Picture</a>:</cite> <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/05/ballmer-yang-ag.html">Ballmer, Yang Agree to See Other People</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/">deal architect</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2008/05/back-to-custome.html">Back to customer focus    So the Microsoft/Yahoo! deal appears finally off.</a></div>
<div><cite>Timothy / <a href="http://slashdot.org/">Slashdot</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/05/04/0045248.shtml">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Takeover Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog">HipMojo.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/should-investors-sue-or-back-yang/">Should Investors Sue or Back Yang?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://digg.com/">Digg</a>:</cite> <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_Withdraws_Its_Bid_for_Yahoo_2">Microsoft Withdraws Its Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p29#a080503p29"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Microsoft pulls its Yahoo offer</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Microsoft-Rescinds-Yahoo-Offer-94128">DSLreports</a>, <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503yahoo.html">Forbes</a>, <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935208-7.html">CNET News.com</a>, <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2008/tc2008053_759938.htm">Business Week</a>, <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&amp;printTitle=Reality_1,_Scoble_0&amp;entry=3387315126">Smalltalk Tidbits </a>, <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/how-will-yahoo-heal-after-microsoft-walked-away/">Scobleizer</a>, <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006885.html">Techlog</a>, <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/microsoft-retreats-or-withdrawls-depends-on-your-view.html">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>, <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500797">InformationWeek</a>, <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/latest-chess-move-msft-withdraws-offer/">HipMojo.com</a>, <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/080503-215913">Search Engine Watch Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-microsoft-yahoo-yang/">paidContent.org</a>, <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/microsoft-yahoo-aol">CenterNetworks</a>, <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080503-200422.php">Search Engine Land</a>, <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004417.php">John Battelle's Searchblog</a>, <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.php">WebGuild</a>, <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-walking-away-from-yahoo-acquisition/">MacRumors</a>, <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-pulls-bid-for-yahoo/">Engadget</a>, <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-breaks-the-wrist-microsoft-walks-away/">VentureBeat</a> and <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080503/ballmer-to-yang-dear-jerry-drop-dead/">Digital Daily</a></p>
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<div><cite>KathrynV / <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/">DSLreports</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Microsoft-Rescinds-Yahoo-Offer-94128">Microsoft Rescinds Yahoo Offer - No agreement could be reached in talks yesterday</a></div>
<div><cite>Elizabeth Corcoran / <a href="http://www.forbes.com/">Forbes</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503yahoo.html">Forget It, Ballmer Says To Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935208-7.html">Is Google ad deal really Yahoo's best option?</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Hof / <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/">Business Week</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2008/tc2008053_759938.htm">Microsoft Drops Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>James A. Robertson / <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView">Smalltalk Tidbits, Industry Rants</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&amp;printTitle=Reality_1,_Scoble_0&amp;entry=3387315126">Reality 1, Scoble 0</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Scoble / <a href="http://scobleizer.com/">Scobleizer</a>:</cite> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/how-will-yahoo-heal-after-microsoft-walked-away/">How will Yahoo heal after Microsoft walked away?</a></div>
<div><cite>Harry McCracken / <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/">Techlog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006885.html">No MicroHoo?  Hallelujah!</a></div>
<div><cite>David Snyder / <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/microsoft-retreats-or-withdrawls-depends-on-your-view.html">Microsoft Retreats or Withdrawls, Depends on Your View</a></div>
<div><cite>Alexander Wolfe / <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/">InformationWeek</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500797">Microsoft Yanks Yahoo Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog">HipMojo.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/latest-chess-move-msft-withdraws-offer/">Latest Chess Move: MSFT Withdraws Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Kevin Heisler / <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/">Search Engine Watch Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/080503-215913">Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer; Yahoo Responds</a></div>
<div><cite>Staci D. Kramer / <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/">paidContent.org</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-microsoft-yahoo-yang/">Microsoft-Yahoo: Yang's Response: With Distraction Behind Us  </a></div>
<div><cite>Allen Stern / <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/">CenterNetworks</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/microsoft-yahoo-aol">What's Next for Yahoo?  Merging With AOL Still My Pick</a></div>
<div><cite>Greg Sterling / <a href="http://searchengineland.com/">Search Engine Land</a>:</cite> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080503-200422.php">Microsoft Yanks Its Offer For Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>John Battelle / <a href="http://battellemedia.com/">John Battelle's Searchblog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004417.php">MICROSOFT BAILS, YAHOO'S GOOGLE THREAT APPEARS TO HAVE WORKED</a></div>
<div><cite>Joseph Hunkins / <a href="http://www.webguild.org/index.php">WebGuild</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.php">Microsoft Walks Away From Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Arn / <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/">MacRumors</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-walking-away-from-yahoo-acquisition/">Microsoft Walking Away from Yahoo Acquisition</a></div>
<div><cite>Ryan Block / <a href="http://www.engadget.com/">Engadget</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-pulls-bid-for-yahoo/">Microsoft pulls bid for Yahoo!, Microhoo will never be</a></div>
<div><cite>MG Siegler / <a href="http://venturebeat.com/">VentureBeat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-breaks-the-wrist-microsoft-walks-away/">Yahoo breaks the wrist, Microsoft walks away</a></div>
<div><cite>John Paczkowski / <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/">Digital Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080503/ballmer-to-yang-dear-jerry-drop-dead/">Ballmer to Yang: Dear Jerry, Drop Dead</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p35#a080503p35"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Microsoft says proxy battle not worth it</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/05/03/its-off-microsoft-withdraws-its-offer-for-yahoo-for-now/">BloggingStocks</a></p>
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<div><cite>Peter Cohan / <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/">BloggingStocks</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/05/03/its-off-microsoft-withdraws-its-offer-for-yahoo-for-now/">It's off. Microsoft withdraws its offer for Yahoo  for now</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p4#a080504p4"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/">BBC</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://gizmodo.com/386912/microsoft-retires-yahoo-offer-wont-try-hostile-takeover">Gizmodo</a> and <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/05/04/no-microhoo-microsoft-terminates-bid-on-yahoo/">TECH.BLORGE.com</a></p>
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<div><cite>Jesus Diaz / <a href="http://gizmodo.com/">Gizmodo</a>:</cite> <a href="http://gizmodo.com/386912/microsoft-retires-yahoo-offer-wont-try-hostile-takeover">Microsoft Retires Yahoo Offer, Won't Try Hostile Takeover</a></div>
<div><cite>Erna Mahyuni / <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/">TECH.BLORGE.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/05/04/no-microhoo-microsoft-terminates-bid-on-yahoo/">No Microhoo - Microsoft terminates bid on Yahoo</a></div>
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<p><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p31#a080503p31"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTo<br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/microsoft">microsoft</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/microsoft"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/microsoft.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/yahoo">yahoo</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/yahoo"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/yahoo.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/news">news</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/news"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/news.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/google">google</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/google"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/google.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/discussion">discussion</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/discussion"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/discussion.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft withdrawing its offer to buy Yahoo is a sufficiently large story to demonstrate the problem of redundant news content on the web. <a href="http://news.google.com/?ncl=1154376246&amp;hl=en&amp;topic=b&amp;scoring=n">Google News</a> is currently tracking about 2,000 versions of this story. To get a better sense of why it's a problem to have 2,000 stories about the SAME THING, I've reproduced about ten percent of them below  just the headlines and ledes. If you have the stomach to scroll through them all to see what else I have to say about it, check out the sources as you scroll:</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> The Google News example is <a href="http://publishing2.com/google-news-microsoft-yahoo-example/">reproduced here</a> instead. You're reading this in RSS or email a day after I posted it because this post was so large it broke my Feedburner feed. Too much content breaks the web  there you have it. Keep reading for my original argument.</p>
<p>If you've made it this far, you may have noticed the absence of blogs from the sources. So this is far from a representative sample of all of the websites that published a version of this news story.</p>
<p>Let's check out <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/h1140">Techmeme</a>, again reproduced in its entirety, because seeing is disbelieving:</p>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p45#a080503p45"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releases.cfm">Yahoo!</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Yahoo! Issues Statement in Response to Microsoft</a></strong>   SUNNYVALE, Calif., May 03, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE)  Roy Bostock, Chairman of Yahoo! Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO), a leading global Internet company issued the following statement today in response to Microsoft Corporation's announcement that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo!:</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=308131">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-responds/">TechCrunch</a>, <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/2008/05/microsoft-backs-down-from-yahoo.php">StepForth SEO News Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/walking_away.html">BBC NEWS</a>, <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503end.html">Forbes</a>, <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16940.html">I4U News</a>, <a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/microsoft/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-proposal.html">VoIP Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007899.html">Geek News Central</a>, <a href="http://furrier.org/2008/05/04/victory-for-silicon-valley-the-silicon-valley-poison-pill-worked-as-predicted/">Furrier.org</a>, <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/05/03/ballmer-calls-yangs-bluff-microsoft-walks/">Tech Trader Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2008/05/04/yahoo-responds-to-withdrawal-issues-statement.aspx">LiveSide</a>, <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/yahoos_response.html">Paul Kedrosky's </a> and <a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21588D139CAFEFE462%211258.entry">Geek Speaker</a></p>
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<div><cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-responds/">Yahoo Responds: The distraction of Microsoft's unsolicited proposal now behind us</a></div>
<div><cite>Ross Dunn / <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/index.php">StepForth SEO News Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.stepforth.com/blog/2008/05/microsoft-backs-down-from-yahoo.php">Microsoft Backs Down from Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Darren Waters / <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/">BBC NEWS | dot.life</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/walking_away.html">Walking away</a></div>
<div><cite>Elizabeth Corcoran / <a href="http://www.forbes.com/">Forbes</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503end.html">What Microsoft Will Buy Now    Expect to hear more from Steve Ballmer.</a></div>
<div><cite>Luigi Lugmayr / <a href="http://www.i4u.com/">I4U News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16940.html">Yahoo's Response to Microsoft's Bid Withdrawal</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/">VoIP Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/rich-tehrani/microsoft/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-proposal.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Proposal</a></div>
<div><cite>Todd Cochrane / <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/">Geek News Central</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.geeknewscentral.com/archives/007899.html">Yahoo is Toast and Yang needs to be Fired</a></div>
<div><cite>John Furrier / <a href="http://furrier.org/">Furrier.org</a>:</cite> <a href="http://furrier.org/2008/05/04/victory-for-silicon-valley-the-silicon-valley-poison-pill-worked-as-predicted/">Victory for Silicon Valley; The Silicon Valley Poison Pill Worked - As Predicted</a></div>
<div><cite>Eric Savitz / <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily">Tech Trader Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/05/03/ballmer-calls-yangs-bluff-microsoft-walks/">Ballmer Calls Yang's Bluff: Microsoft Walks</a></div>
<div><cite>Kip Kniskern / <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/">LiveSide</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2008/05/04/yahoo-responds-to-withdrawal-issues-statement.aspx">Yahoo! responds to withdrawal - issues statement</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite> <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/yahoos_response.html">Yahoo's Response to Microsoft's Response to Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/">Geek Speaker</a>:</cite> <a href="http://geekspeaker.spaces.live.com/blog/cns%21588D139CAFEFE462%211258.entry">Why Yahoo is worth more than 50 billion &amp; why Yahoo! For Good  </a></div>
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<div><strong><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Microsoft Withdraws Proposal to Acquire Yahoo!</a></strong>   Microsoft Corp. today announced that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo! Inc.    Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ: MSFT) today announced that it has withdrawn its proposal to acquire Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ: YHOO).</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/may08/05-03letter.mspx">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080504-104940.php">Search Engine Land</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1029">Googling Google</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8714">Between the Lines</a>, <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935249-7.html">CNET News.com</a>, <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/05/04/microsoft-yahoo-web-workers/">Web Worker Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/microsoftyahoo-summary-of-news-bonus-gillmor-gang/">TechCrunch</a>, <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2008/05/msft-and-yhoo-its-finally-over/">WeBreakStuff</a>, <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/05/04/yahoo-blows-it-how-low-will-they-go/">Simon's Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16939.html">I4U News</a>, <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news/2008/05/04/microsoft-withdraws-offer-for-yahoo/">Microsoft News Tracker</a>, <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2008/05/microsoft_to_yahoo_never_mind_1.html">TechBlog</a>, <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/will-microsoft-really-walk/">DealBook</a>, <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467031.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>, <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/88917/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.html">Pocket PC Thoughts.com</a>, <a href="http://www.techspot.com/news/29921-Weekend-tech-reading-504.html">TechSpot</a>, <a href="http://joeduck.com/2008/05/03/ballmer-has-left-the-building/">Joe Duck</a>, <a href="http://techbays.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-the-no-votes-win/">TechBays</a>, <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/05/microsoft-walks.html">Epicenter</a>, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1376">All about Microsoft</a>, <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/16582/microsoft_abandons_yahoo_takeover">Digital Trends</a>, <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-pulls-plug-on-yahoo.html">SEO and Tech Daily</a>, <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/5646">Alice Hill's Real Tech News</a>, <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/03/lets-get-the-yahoo-microsoft-blogging-party-started/">Mark Evans</a>, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-na-microsoft4-2008may04,0,1142949.story">Los Angeles Times</a>, <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/ballmers-letter-to-jerry-yang.php">WebGuild</a>, <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-corporation-rescinds-offer-for-yahoo-inc/">Mashable!</a>, <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/138070.asp">Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog</a>, <a href="http://valleywag.com/386898/ballmer-to-yang-how-stupid-are-you">Valleywag</a>, <a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/05/microsoft-unable-to-buy-yahoo/">Quick Online Tips</a>, <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-bid-over/">GigaOM</a>, <a href="http://www.profy.com/2008/05/03/microsot-withdraws-yahoo-bid/">Profy.Com</a>, <a href="http://www.appscout.com/2008/05/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_bid.php">AppScout</a>, <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/080503-213942.html">ClickZ News Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/04/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_offer/">The Register</a> and <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/the-first-friendfeed-event-msft-and-yhoo/">Scobleizer</a></p>
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<div><cite>Danny Sullivan / <a href="http://searchengineland.com/">Search Engine Land</a>:</cite> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080504-104940.php">Leaving Las Yahoo: Microsoft's $5 Billion Mistake?</a></div>
<div><cite>Garett Rogers / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google">Googling Google</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1029">Microsoft withrawls bid for Yahoo, Google wins</a></div>
<div><cite>Larry Dignan / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL">Between the Lines</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8714">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo: Assessing winners, losers and Plan Bs</a></div>
<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935249-7.html">Yahoo-Google ad deal could be announced next week</a></div>
<div><cite>Mike Gunderloy / <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/">Web Worker Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/2008/05/04/microsoft-yahoo-web-workers/">Microsoft, Yahoo, and Web Workers</a></div>
<div><cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/microsoftyahoo-summary-of-news-bonus-gillmor-gang/">Microsoft/Yahoo: Summary Of Today's News &amp; Bonus Gillmor Gang</a></div>
<div><cite>Fred Oliveira / <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/">WeBreakStuff</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2008/05/msft-and-yhoo-its-finally-over/">MSFT and YHOO: It's finally over</a></div>
<div><cite>Simon Brocklehurst / <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog">Simon's Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/05/04/yahoo-blows-it-how-low-will-they-go/">YAHOO! BLOWS IT - HOW LOW WILL THEY GO?</a></div>
<div><cite>Luigi Lugmayr / <a href="http://www.i4u.com/">I4U News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.i4u.com/article16939.html">Microsoft officially withdraws Yahoo Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>David Hunter / <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news">Microsoft News Tracker</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.hunterstrat.com/news/2008/05/04/microsoft-withdraws-offer-for-yahoo/">Microsoft withdraws offer for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Dwight / <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/">TechBlog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2008/05/microsoft_to_yahoo_never_mind_1.html">Microsoft to Yahoo: Never mind</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/">DealBook</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/will-microsoft-really-walk/">Will Microsoft Really Walk?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/default.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467031.aspx">Yahoo Prevails    Microsoft Withdraws Proposal to Acquire Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Darius Wey / <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/">Pocket PC Thoughts.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/88917/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.html">Microsoft Walks Away From Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Julio Franco / <a href="http://www.techspot.com/">TechSpot</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.techspot.com/news/29921-Weekend-tech-reading-504.html">Weekend tech reading (5.04)</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://joeduck.com/">Joe Duck</a>:</cite> <a href="http://joeduck.com/2008/05/03/ballmer-has-left-the-building/">Ballmer has left the Building</a></div>
<div><cite>Carlo Maglinao / <a href="http://techbays.com/">TechBays</a>:</cite> <a href="http://techbays.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-the-no-votes-win/">Microsoft Yahoo! Deal: the NO votes win</a></div>
<div><cite>Betsy Schiffman / <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/">Epicenter</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/05/microsoft-walks.html">Microsoft Walks! Says Yahoo Demands Don't Make Sense</a></div>
<div><cite>Mary Jo Foley / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft">All about Microsoft</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1376">Microsoft takes its ball and leaves Yahoo on the Web 2.0 playground</a></div>
<div><cite>Geoff Duncan / <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/">Digital Trends</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/16582/microsoft_abandons_yahoo_takeover">Microsoft Abandons Yahoo Takeover</a></div>
<div><cite>Charlie Anzman / <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/">SEO and Tech Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://anzman.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-pulls-plug-on-yahoo.html">Microsoft pulls the plug on Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Michael Santo / <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/">Alice Hill's Real Tech News</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/5646">No Microhoo: Microsoft Walks Away from Yahoo! Deal</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/">Mark Evans</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/03/lets-get-the-yahoo-microsoft-blogging-party-started/">Let's Get the (Yahoo-Microsoft Blogging Party) Started</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.latimes.com/">Los Angeles Times</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.latimes.com/technology/la-na-microsoft4-2008may04,0,1142949.story">Microsoft drops bid to acquire Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Joseph Hunkins / <a href="http://www.webguild.org/index.php">WebGuild</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/ballmers-letter-to-jerry-yang.php">Ballmer's Letter to Jerry Yang Withdrawing Microsoft's Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Paul Glazowski / <a href="http://mashable.com/">Mashable!</a>:</cite> <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-corporation-rescinds-offer-for-yahoo-inc/">Breaking: Microsoft Corporation Rescinds Offer For Yahoo Inc</a></div>
<div><cite>Todd Bishop / <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft">Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/138070.asp">Ballmer's internal e-mail on Yahoo decision</a></div>
<div><cite>Owen Thomas / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386898/ballmer-to-yang-how-stupid-are-you">Ballmer to Yang: How stupid are you?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/">Quick Online Tips</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/05/microsoft-unable-to-buy-yahoo/">Microsoft Unable to Buy Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Om Malik / <a href="http://gigaom.com/">GigaOM</a>:</cite> <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-bid-over/">Microsoft To Yahoo: Take a Hike!</a></div>
<div><cite>Cyndy Aleo-Carreira / <a href="http://www.profy.com/">Profy.Com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.profy.com/2008/05/03/microsot-withdraws-yahoo-bid/">Steve Stands Jerry Up for the Internet Prom</a></div>
<div><cite>Brian Heater / <a href="http://www.appscout.com/">AppScout</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.appscout.com/2008/05/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_bid.php">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo! Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Anna Maria Virzi / <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/">ClickZ News Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.clickz.com/080503-213942.html">Microsoft Withdraws Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Drew Cullen / <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/">The Register</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/04/microsoft_withdraws_yahoo_offer/">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Scoble / <a href="http://scobleizer.com/">Scobleizer</a>:</cite> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/the-first-friendfeed-event-msft-and-yhoo/">The First FriendFeed Event: MSFT and YHOO</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/microhoo-the-odd-couple-meetings-led-nowhere/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i48.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p48#a080503p48"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/microhoo-the-odd-couple-meetings-led-nowhere/">MicroHoo: The Odd Couple Meetings Led Nowhere</a></strong>   After today's events, I guess you could say Yahoo and Microsoft tried, holding a series of meetings about a possible takeover that ended up proving exactly how incompatible the companies were.    Kind of like Oscar Madison and Felix Unger, but not funny in any way at all.</div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8708">Between the Lines</a>, <a href="http://valleywag.com/386890/yahoos-37-demand-talks-microsofts-33-offer-walks">Valleywag</a> and <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/first_ticktock.html">Paul Kedrosky's </a></p>
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<div><cite>Larry Dignan / <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL">Between the Lines</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8708">Microsoft walks: Five reasons why it's a good move</a></div>
<div><cite>Jackson West / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386890/yahoos-37-demand-talks-microsofts-33-offer-walks">YAHOO'S $37 DEMAND TALKS, MICROSOFT'S $33 OFFER WALKS   Microsoft  </a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite> <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/first_ticktock.html">First Tick-Tock of Da Deal Gone Dead</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p7#a080504p7"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">OK, so what's Microsoft's plan B?</a></strong>   With Yahoo apparently off the table, it's time to see what Microsoft's back-up plan looks like.    Microsoft has said for some time that it has a strategy with or without Yahoo, but it's a strategy clearly in need of a jump-start.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935120-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/05/ballmer-now-looking-for-other-companies.html">The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs</a> and <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/general/2008/05/04/steve-ballmer-as-the-creature/">About Mobility Weblog</a></p>
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<div><cite>Steve / <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/">The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs</a>:</cite> <a href="http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/05/ballmer-now-looking-for-other-companies.html">Ballmer now looking for other companies to not buy</a></div>
<div><cite>Ceo / <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/">About Mobility Weblog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://weblog.cenriqueortiz.com/general/2008/05/04/steve-ballmer-as-the-creature/">Steve Ballmer as The Creature</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p5#a080504p5"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/">DealBook</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/guessing-yahoos-opening-stock-price/">Guessing Yahoo's Opening Stock Price</a></strong>   Well, Yahoo seems to have gotten what it wanted.    The company managed to fend off Microsoft's unwanted advances, even after the software giant sweetened its bid by $5 billion  an amount Yahoo felt still wasn't enough.</div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/why_yahoo_yhoo_should_go_ahead_with_google_outsourcing_deal_goog_">Silicon Alley Insider</a> and <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/ack-microsoft-walks-away-winner-google/">Terry Heaton's PoMo Blog</a></p>
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<div><cite>Henry Blodget / <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/">Silicon Alley Insider</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/5/why_yahoo_yhoo_should_go_ahead_with_google_outsourcing_deal_goog_">Why Yahoo (YHOO) Should Go Ahead With Google Outsourcing Deal (GOOG)</a></div>
<div><cite>Terry Heaton / <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/">Terry Heaton's PoMo Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.thepomoblog.com/archive/ack-microsoft-walks-away-winner-google/">Ack!  Microsoft walks away.  Winner?  Google.</a></div>
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<div><strong><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120986002095265343.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer After Attempt to Bridge Gap in Price</a></strong>   Microsoft Corp. said it abandoned its offer for Yahoo Inc., as the two companies failed to bridge a gap between them on price.    Microsoft Saturday released a letter from Chief Executive Steve Ballmer </div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-offer-after.html">Peter O'Kelly's Reality Check</a> and <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/05/microsoft_drops.html">Tech Beat</a></p>
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<div><cite>Peter / <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/">Peter O'Kelly's Reality Check</a>:</cite> <a href="http://pbokelly.blogspot.com/2008/05/microsoft-withdraws-yahoo-offer-after.html">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer After Attempt to Bridge Gap in Price - WSJ.com</a></div>
<div><cite>Rob Hof / <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/">Tech Beat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2008/05/microsoft_drops.html">Microsoft Drops Yahoo BidAt Least For Now</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p3#a080504p3"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Dawn Kawamoto / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Report: A peek behind the Yahoo-Microsoft meltdown</a></strong>   Curious how Microsoft's multi-multi-multi-billion dollar buyout bid for Yahoo sputtered, then crashed?    Kara Swisher's BoomTown column in All Things Digital has an interesting account of the missteps, sidesteps </div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935250-7.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/i2.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p2#a080504p2"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Yahoo's Nightmare Scenario: I'm From Google and I'm Here to Help!</a></strong>   Here's what a top-notch source at Yahoo joked to me tonight, after Microsoft walked away from its unsolicited takeover bid to acquire the long-troubled Internet giant.    Google is now officially our best friend.    Oh no.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080503/yahoos-nightmare-scenario-im-from-google-and-im-here-to-help/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/05/with-the-micros.html">Groundswell</a></p>
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<div><cite>Charlene Li / <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/">Groundswell</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/05/with-the-micros.html">What's next for Microsoft and Yahoo!</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i49.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p49#a080503p49"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Yahoo's Tough Week Ahead</a></strong>   At around 4:30 California time today news broke that Microsoft has formally withdrawn its offer to acquire Yahoo (see Ballmer's email to Microsoft employees here).    Among other things, that ends a three month stock party where the market value of Yahoo jumped </div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/yahoos-tough-week-ahead/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/05/04/microsoft_walks_out_of_yahoo_deal_updated.html">Guardian Unlimited</a>, <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/the_microsoftyahoo_blame_game.html">Microsoft Watch</a>, <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/05/yahoomicrosoft_dramatakeover_t.html">MediaShift</a> and <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467040.aspx">Paul Mooney</a></p>
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<div><cite>Jack Schofield / <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/">Guardian Unlimited</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/05/04/microsoft_walks_out_of_yahoo_deal_updated.html">Microsoft walks out of Yahoo deal (updated)</a></div>
<div><cite>Joe Wilcox / <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/">Microsoft Watch</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/the_microsoftyahoo_blame_game.html">The Microsoft-Yahoo Blame Game</a></div>
<div><cite>Mark Glaser / <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/">MediaShift</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/05/yahoomicrosoft_dramatakeover_t.html">Yahoo-Microsoft Drama::Takeover Tiff Best Thing to Happen to Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/default.aspx">Paul Mooney</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/paul/archive/2008/05/04/467040.aspx">A YAHOO RUN, OR A RUN ON YHOO?</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p1#a080504p1"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Yi-Wyn Yen / <a href="http://www.fortune.com/">Fortune</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Blame it on Google</a></strong>   Microsoft CEO Ballmer said the software giant decided to walk away from a bid because Yahoo would become undesirable' if it formed an alliance with Google.    (Fortune)  Google proved to be the final straw that broke Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's back.</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/news/companies/google.msft.fortune/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ballmers_folly_ends_microsoft_abandons_yahoo_bid_because_of_google/">MacDailyNews</a> and <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/technology/microsoft_yahoo/">CNNMoney.com</a></p>
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<div><cite><a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/">MacDailyNews</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ballmers_folly_ends_microsoft_abandons_yahoo_bid_because_of_google/">Ballmer's Folly ends: Microsoft abandons Yahoo bid because of Google</a></div>
<div><cite>Mark M. Meinero / <a href="http://money.cnn.com/">CNNMoney.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/03/technology/microsoft_yahoo/">Microsoft withdraws bid for Yahoo</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p38#a080503p38"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/">Paul Kedrosky's Infectious Greed</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Analysis of the Microsoft Decision, Plus Yahoo's Hari-Kari</a></strong>   Here is my first-cut analysis of what has happened here:   On the friendly front, Yahoo drew a hard line at $37 per share, well above the $33 that Microsoft now says it told Yahoo this week it was willing to go</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/05/03/analysis_of_the.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Alan Patrick / <a href="http://broadstuff.com/">broadstuff</a>:</cite> <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/905-Microhoo-no-more......html">MICROHOO NO MORE..  So the deal is off - though whether  </a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p42#a080503p42"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite>
<div><strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Email From Steve Ballmer To All Microsoft Employees</a></strong>   The following email was sent to all Microsoft employees from CEO Steve Ballmer at 5:17 pm PDT (see Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Bid; Walks Away From Deal):    To: Microsoft - All Employees (QBDG)</div>
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<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/email-from-steve-ballmer-to-all-microsoft-employees/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/05/04/microsoft-drops-plans-to-buy-yahoo/">InsideMicrosoft</a>, <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/04/microsoft-is-done-pursuing-yahoo">WebProNews</a>, <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-now-has-50-billion-burning-a-hole-in-its-pocket/">VentureBeat</a> and <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/steve-ballmers-email-to-microsoft-employees.html">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a></p>
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<div><cite>Nathan Weinberg / <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/">InsideMicrosoft</a>:</cite> <a href="http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2008/05/04/microsoft-drops-plans-to-buy-yahoo/">Microsoft Drops Plans To Buy Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Nathan Weinberg / <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/">WebProNews</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/04/microsoft-is-done-pursuing-yahoo">Microsoft Is Done Pursuing Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>MG Siegler / <a href="http://venturebeat.com/">VentureBeat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-now-has-50-billion-burning-a-hole-in-its-pocket/">Microsoft now has $50 billion burning a hole in its pocket</a></div>
<div><cite>David Snyder / <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/steve-ballmers-email-to-microsoft-employees.html">Steve Ballmer's Email to Microsoft Employees</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/i33.jpg" alt=""></a> <a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p33#a080503p33"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Michael Arrington / <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Bid; Walks Away From Deal (Updated)</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/03/breaking-microsoft-walks/">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Kara Swisher / <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/">BoomTown</a>:</cite> <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080504/boomtown-decodes-microsofts-steve-ballmers-letter-to-yahoo-the-kiss-off-edition/">BoomTown Decodes Microsoft's Steve Ballmer's Letter to Yahoo (The Kiss-Off Edition)</a></div>
<div><cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935169-56.html">Ballmer's e-mail to staff on Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/i/578">Reuters</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080504/ts_nm/microsoft_yahoo_dc">Microsoft says it withdraws offer for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten / <a href="http://thenextweb.org/">The Next Web</a>:</cite> <a href="http://thenextweb.org/2008/05/04/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo-deal/">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo deal</a></div>
<div><cite>Rory Cellan-Jones / <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/">BBC NEWS | dot.life</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/05/microsoft_v_yahoo_postmatch_an.html">Microsoft v Yahoo - post-match analysis</a></div>
<div><cite>Charles Cooper / <a href="http://www.news.com/coops-corner/">Coop's Corner</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10787_3-9935123-60.html">Post-Microhoo: Winners and losers</a></div>
<div><cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://voices.allthingsd.com/">Voices</a>:</cite> <a href="http://voices.allthingsd.com/20080504/microsofts-move-is-it-just-a-feint/">Microsoft's Move: Is It Just a Feint?</a></div>
<div><cite>Kip Kniskern / <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/">LiveSide</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.liveside.net/blogs/opinion/archive/2008/05/04/no-msft-yhoo-deal-now-what.aspx">No MSFT-YHOO deal; now what?    Microsoft just walked away  </a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://www.electronista.com/">Electronista</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/03/microsoft.nixes.yahoo.bid/">Microsoft backs out of Yahoo bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Owen Thomas / <a href="http://valleywag.com/">Valleywag</a>:</cite> <a href="http://valleywag.com/386896/is-ballmer-on-his-way-out-++-and-if-so-whos-the-next-ceo">Is Ballmer on his way out  and if so, who's the next CEO?</a></div>
<div><cite>Mathew / <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work">mathewingram.com/work</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/03/yhoo-and-msft-jerry-yang-should-be-fired/">YHOO and MSFT: Jerry Yang should be fired</a></div>
<div><cite>Ben Worthen / <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech">Business Technology</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/05/03/the-most-famous-non-deal-in-tech-history/">The Most Famous Non-Deal in Tech History</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://sarahlacy.typepad.com/sarahlacy/">Sarah Lacy</a>:</cite> <a href="http://sarahlacy.typepad.com/sarahlacy/2008/05/or-maybe-i-wont.html">Or Maybe I Won't Be Working for the Evil Empire</a></div>
<div><cite>Dave McClure / <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/">Master of 500 Hats</a>:</cite> <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2008/05/memo-to-jerry-p.html">MicroHooFreude!  (Memo to Jerry: Prepare to be Sued)</a></div>
<div><cite>Thomas Hawk / <a href="http://thomashawk.com/">Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection</a>:</cite> <a href="http://thomashawk.com/2008/05/remember-when-thomas-hawk-said-if-he.html">Remember When Thomas Hawk Said If He Were Microsoft He'd Lower His Bid for Yahoo?</a></div>
<div><cite>Arnold Zafra / <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/">Search Engine Journal</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/microsoft-walks-off-the-deal-finally/6839/">Microsoft Cancels the Yahoo Acquisition Deal, Finally!</a></div>
<div><cite>Steven Hodson / <a href="http://www.winextra.com/">WinExtra</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.winextra.com/2008/05/03/please-tell-me-its-so/">Please tell me it's so</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p39#a080503p39"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/technology/">New York Times</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html?partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss">Microsoft Withdraws Its Bid for Yahoo</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935209-7.html">CNET News.com</a>, <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/05/ballmer-yang-ag.html">The Big Picture</a>, <a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2008/05/back-to-custome.html">deal architect</a>, <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/05/04/0045248.shtml">Slashdot</a>, <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/should-investors-sue-or-back-yang/">HipMojo.com</a> and <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_Withdraws_Its_Bid_for_Yahoo_2">Digg</a></p>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span></p>
<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935209-7.html">Yahoo: Microsoft's price just wasn't right</a></div>
<div><cite>Ritholtz / <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/">The Big Picture</a>:</cite> <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/05/ballmer-yang-ag.html">Ballmer, Yang Agree to See Other People</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/">deal architect</a>:</cite> <a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2008/05/back-to-custome.html">Back to customer focus    So the Microsoft/Yahoo! deal appears finally off.</a></div>
<div><cite>Timothy / <a href="http://slashdot.org/">Slashdot</a>:</cite> <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/05/04/0045248.shtml">Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Takeover Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog">HipMojo.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/should-investors-sue-or-back-yang/">Should Investors Sue or Back Yang?</a></div>
<div><cite><a href="http://digg.com/">Digg</a>:</cite> <a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_Withdraws_Its_Bid_for_Yahoo_2">Microsoft Withdraws Its Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p29#a080503p29"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Microsoft pulls its Yahoo offer</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935099-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Microsoft-Rescinds-Yahoo-Offer-94128">DSLreports</a>, <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503yahoo.html">Forbes</a>, <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935208-7.html">CNET News.com</a>, <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2008/tc2008053_759938.htm">Business Week</a>, <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&amp;printTitle=Reality_1,_Scoble_0&amp;entry=3387315126">Smalltalk Tidbits </a>, <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/how-will-yahoo-heal-after-microsoft-walked-away/">Scobleizer</a>, <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006885.html">Techlog</a>, <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/microsoft-retreats-or-withdrawls-depends-on-your-view.html">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>, <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500797">InformationWeek</a>, <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/latest-chess-move-msft-withdraws-offer/">HipMojo.com</a>, <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/080503-215913">Search Engine Watch Blog</a>, <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-microsoft-yahoo-yang/">paidContent.org</a>, <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/microsoft-yahoo-aol">CenterNetworks</a>, <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080503-200422.php">Search Engine Land</a>, <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004417.php">John Battelle's Searchblog</a>, <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.php">WebGuild</a>, <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-walking-away-from-yahoo-acquisition/">MacRumors</a>, <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-pulls-bid-for-yahoo/">Engadget</a>, <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-breaks-the-wrist-microsoft-walks-away/">VentureBeat</a> and <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080503/ballmer-to-yang-dear-jerry-drop-dead/">Digital Daily</a></p>
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<div><cite>KathrynV / <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/">DSLreports</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Microsoft-Rescinds-Yahoo-Offer-94128">Microsoft Rescinds Yahoo Offer - No agreement could be reached in talks yesterday</a></div>
<div><cite>Elizabeth Corcoran / <a href="http://www.forbes.com/">Forbes</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-yahoo-deal-tech-enter-cx_ec_0503yahoo.html">Forget It, Ballmer Says To Yahoo!</a></div>
<div><cite>Stephen Shankland / <a href="http://www.news.com/">CNET News.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9935208-7.html">Is Google ad deal really Yahoo's best option?</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Hof / <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/">Business Week</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2008/tc2008053_759938.htm">Microsoft Drops Bid for Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>James A. Robertson / <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView">Smalltalk Tidbits, Industry Rants</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&amp;printTitle=Reality_1,_Scoble_0&amp;entry=3387315126">Reality 1, Scoble 0</a></div>
<div><cite>Robert Scoble / <a href="http://scobleizer.com/">Scobleizer</a>:</cite> <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/03/how-will-yahoo-heal-after-microsoft-walked-away/">How will Yahoo heal after Microsoft walked away?</a></div>
<div><cite>Harry McCracken / <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/">Techlog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006885.html">No MicroHoo?  Hallelujah!</a></div>
<div><cite>David Snyder / <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/">Andy Beal's Marketing Pilgrim</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2008/05/microsoft-retreats-or-withdrawls-depends-on-your-view.html">Microsoft Retreats or Withdrawls, Depends on Your View</a></div>
<div><cite>Alexander Wolfe / <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/">InformationWeek</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500797">Microsoft Yanks Yahoo Bid</a></div>
<div><cite>Ashkan Karbasfrooshan / <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog">HipMojo.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://watchmojo.com/web/blog/index.php/2008/05/03/latest-chess-move-msft-withdraws-offer/">Latest Chess Move: MSFT Withdraws Offer</a></div>
<div><cite>Kevin Heisler / <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/">Search Engine Watch Blog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/080503-215913">Breaking: Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer; Yahoo Responds</a></div>
<div><cite>Staci D. Kramer / <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/">paidContent.org</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-microsoft-yahoo-yang/">Microsoft-Yahoo: Yang's Response: With Distraction Behind Us  </a></div>
<div><cite>Allen Stern / <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/">CenterNetworks</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/microsoft-yahoo-aol">What's Next for Yahoo?  Merging With AOL Still My Pick</a></div>
<div><cite>Greg Sterling / <a href="http://searchengineland.com/">Search Engine Land</a>:</cite> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080503-200422.php">Microsoft Yanks Its Offer For Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>John Battelle / <a href="http://battellemedia.com/">John Battelle's Searchblog</a>:</cite> <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004417.php">MICROSOFT BAILS, YAHOO'S GOOGLE THREAT APPEARS TO HAVE WORKED</a></div>
<div><cite>Joseph Hunkins / <a href="http://www.webguild.org/index.php">WebGuild</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.webguild.org/2008/05/microsoft-walks-away-from-yahoo.php">Microsoft Walks Away From Yahoo</a></div>
<div><cite>Arn / <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/">MacRumors</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-walking-away-from-yahoo-acquisition/">Microsoft Walking Away from Yahoo Acquisition</a></div>
<div><cite>Ryan Block / <a href="http://www.engadget.com/">Engadget</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/03/microsoft-pulls-bid-for-yahoo/">Microsoft pulls bid for Yahoo!, Microhoo will never be</a></div>
<div><cite>MG Siegler / <a href="http://venturebeat.com/">VentureBeat</a>:</cite> <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/05/03/yahoo-breaks-the-wrist-microsoft-walks-away/">Yahoo breaks the wrist, Microsoft walks away</a></div>
<div><cite>John Paczkowski / <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/">Digital Daily</a>:</cite> <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080503/ballmer-to-yang-dear-jerry-drop-dead/">Ballmer to Yang: Dear Jerry, Drop Dead</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080503/p35#a080503p35"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite>Ina Fried / <a href="http://www.news.com/beyond-binary/">Beyond Binary</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Microsoft says proxy battle not worth it</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-9935100-56.html">IceRocket</a></div>
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<div><cite>Peter Cohan / <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/">BloggingStocks</a>:</cite> <a href="http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/05/03/its-off-microsoft-withdraws-its-offer-for-yahoo-for-now/">It's off. Microsoft withdraws its offer for Yahoo  for now</a></div>
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<div><a title="Permalink" href="http://www.techmeme.com/080504/p4#a080504p4"><img src="http://www.techmeme.com/img/pml.png" alt=""></a> <cite><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/">BBC</a>:</cite><br>
<strong><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Microsoft walks away from Yahoo</a></strong> 
<div><span>Link Search:</span> <a href="http://www.ask.com/blogsearch?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Ask</a>, <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Technorati</a>, <a href="http://www.sphere.com/search?q=sphereit:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Sphere</a>, <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">Google</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7382572.stm">IceRocket</a></div>
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<p><span>Discussion:</span> <a href="http://gizmodo.com/386912/microsoft-retires-yahoo-offer-wont-try-hostile-takeover">Gizmodo</a> and <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/05/04/no-microhoo-microsoft-terminates-bid-on-yahoo/">TECH.BLORGE.com</a></p>
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<div><cite>Jesus Diaz / <a href="http://gizmodo.com/">Gizmodo</a>:</cite> <a href="http://gizmodo.com/386912/microsoft-retires-yahoo-offer-wont-try-hostile-takeover">Microsoft Retires Yahoo Offer, Won't Try Hostile Takeover</a></div>
<div><cite>Erna Mahyuni / <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/">TECH.BLORGE.com</a>:</cite> <a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/05/04/no-microhoo-microsoft-terminates-bid-on-yahoo/">No Microhoo - Microsoft terminates bid on Yahoo</a></div>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><em>Warning: this is going to be a rambling, self-referential post with lots of whining and talk about feelings. If you don't want to read it, just move along</em></p>
<p>Today was a rough day for me, emotionally. I guess it all has to do with how much of my life I choose to put on the web - a lot. There's very little that I don't share with the people I'm connected with on the web, via this blog, Twitter, or whatever. But it came back to bite me today, and I'm smarting. I guess it's just an unpleasant result of putting my life online.</p>
<p>Earlier today, I was in a meeting where some people from the marketing group were presenting on what they're doing in the world of social media. Anyone who knows me knows that this is a sensitive topic, because I believe very strongly that there's a right and a wrong way to use social tools for marketing. There were lots of buzzwords flying around in the meeting, and of course, I couldn't resist making <a href="http://twitter.com/jabancroft/statuses/804065704">some snarky comments on Twitter</a>. Some of the other people in the meeting are on Twitter, too, and we started a little bit of backchannel banter on the topic.</p>
<p>The conversation then moved into <a href="http://www.britopian.com/2008/04/30/why-do-conversations-matter-in-social-media/#comments">the comments of a post on Michael Brito's blog</a> (Michael works in the marketing department at Intel), and continued in a pretty heated fashion for the rest of the day (Michel turned off comments on that post a few minutes ago). You can go read the thread yourself, to see what was said.</p>
<p>Now, i can't speak to how anyone else in the thread was feeling, or what they were thinking, so the rest of this post is going to be about my thoughts and feelings. I don't want to put words into anyone else's mouth. </p>
<p>I started out frustrated, and finding it hard to make sense of what I was trying to say. I had a very strong feeling and idea I was trying to communicate (about the right vs. wrong way of marketing, having a human voice, and other crap you can go read about). I felt strongly so I spoke strongly, and at first, it didn't work at all. It seemed that everything I said only make people defensive, raised hackles, and provoked retaliation - comments about how I should look in a mirror, etc. </p>
<p>But, as is usually the case during a debate on a complex and emotionally charged topic, after a while, through thinking about it and talking it out, I felt like I settled on a way to clearly and calmly communicate the point I was trying to make the whole time:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I'm giving you feedback and criticism. I'm not trying to attack you personally, but I'm trying to make a point. I can understand you feeling defensive. I'm saying things that make you uncomfortable. But the reason I'm saying them is not to attack you. I promise.</em></p>
<p>I've been doing this social media stuff since before it was even called that. Years and years. I know how to connect with people and build community. I know how to use those skills in marketing - to build an audience, share information, etc. I know what I'm doing. One of the reasons I'm getting so frustrated is that I wish I'd get a little respect for the things that I know and have done. I'm not the new kid on the block here.</p>
<p>I just noticed something - your voice became human in these comments. You're talking like yourself. You're letting your feelings show through. We're having a conversation.</p>
<p>I know it's hard to preserve that human voice when you go to write a blog post. I struggle with that, too. I always ask myself how can I write this so that it doesn't sound like a press release, or something written by the marketing committee. I don't always succeed. I probably succeed less often than I think I do.</p>
<p>But I try, because I really, truly, fundamentally believe that I should sound like a human when I write. Because I know that if I don't, it's a lot less likely that people are going to want to have a conversation with me. And the reason I write, on my blog, on Twitter, for ISN, or wherever else, is to have those real conversations. To make those real connections with other people. It's what I live for. I believe it's the RIGHT way to market to people - connecting with them with respect, humility, and in my very own human voice.</p>
<p>Another reason I get so frustrated with how Intel and other companies are using/abusing/exploiting social media is that they use the same old command and control techniques, and treat it just like it's another channel or medium for them to deliver their message into my brain.</p>
<p>It's an antagonistic view. The terminology is military, brutal, warlike. Tactics, strategy, campaigns. I am NOT a target. I resent being targeted. I am a human being. Connect with me. Converse with me. I'm telling you how you (collectively) can do that. And I get pissed off when I'm ignored, and still treated like a target or just another set of eyeballs.</p>
<p>Conversations matter because they build relationships. Links between people. And as you build more and more of those links, you start getting something really, really cool and powerful and worthwhile - community. To me, that's the golden ring.</p>
<p>But it's possible to do things that hurt those connections, and thus hurt the community. Talk down to people. Target them. Treat them like nothing more than recipients for the message you want them to get. Don't listen to them.</p>
<p>And on a more subtle level, you can do things that don't necessarily hurt the connections and the community, but don't do anything to build them, either. Things like being boring or uninteresting. Not providing any human surface area for people to connect to.</p>
<p>In my opinion, that middle ground is the most dangerous place to be. It's where we (and I'm definitely including myself) get complacent, lazy, and (yes, I'm going to say it), arrogant.</p>
<p>I'm sorry this whole thing spiraled into whatever it was. It's not fair of me to judge you as a person based solely on what you write on your blog, and I apologize for any offense that was given.</p>
<p>I'd like to get to know you better - to connect with you in a meaningful way. But I'm frustrated because I can't find much human surface area to attach to. It's all business and marketing. So I guess what I've been trying to say, and ask for, is for you to provide me (and others) a little more of your human voice, so we can build a better connection.</p>
<p>Does any of that make sense? Or am I really just crazy, and talking nonsense? I feel that way sometimes</p></blockquote>
<p>I felt calmer after posting that. I felt like I had gotten to the bottom of the argument I was trying to make, and had found a way to say it that hopefully wouldn't be too prickly and raise too many hackles. I was, honestly, feeling like I had accomplished something in the midst of the arguing and debate.</p>
<p>I really felt like I was exposing myself, emotionally, when I wrote that. I was sharing my true feelings, without varnish, without buffer. I've found in the past that putting myself out there like that was scary, but worth it, because if I didn't, I'd be a hypocrite, telling other people to be human and share their real, human voice if I wasn't willing to do it myself. And people are usually respectful, and tend to open up themselves after I've done so.</p>
<p>But this time, it backfired on me, and I got hurt.</p>
<p>In the comments that followed, a coworker that I consider a friend, someone who gets it (and who I don't even want to name here, for fear of appearing like I'm trying to lash back at her or something, which I'm not) had this to say:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Josh, have you ever considered the reason you lack respect is your voice? You come across as condescending when you discuss how you inventedI meandiscovered social media before anyone else. Yes, there must always be a pioneer. And thank you for your efforts in that arena. But noone will take you seriously when you continue to tout your position as social media guru (even if you don't use the words) and talk (or throw around labels like arrogant) at people instead of with people. That's what makes this dialogue so ironic. You're doing exactly what you claim to abhor.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>(Here comes the mushy part where I talk about my feelings - you've been warned!)</p>
<p>It really hurt to read that. I felt almost like I had been physically smacked upside the head. I felt that way partly because it was unexpected - coming from someone I consider a friend, and partly because it made me start thinking maybe she's right - maybe I'm arrogant and condescending and no one has ever bothered to tell me before. No one had ever said something like this to me before. No one had ever stated or implied that I act like I invented social media at Intel. The thought never occurred to me, and I've never tried to be like that. But what if she was right?</p>
<p>I posted a response, talking about Intel's dog eat dog Focal review culture, and how if I didn't take credit for things I had done, no one else was going to give me that credit. But that's not what I was really thinking about</p>
<p>Now, I mentioned earlier that there are very few personal details of my life that I don't share on the web. My life is pretty much an open book. But one thing I've never really talked about online is how I've always struggled with my sense of self worth. Or rather, than I have a very persistent, severe tendency to get down on myself, to start thinking that I'm not doing anything right, and feeling like I'm not worth anything. Yes, I've sought professional help. I feel like I generally keep these feelings under control, but they're always there, under the surface, and I don't know what it was about today - the passionate nature of the people involved, or my own strong feelings on the topic, but once I read those words, I couldn't think of anything else. </p>
<p>Usually, when I get like this, I just withdraw from my online life - I stop blogging, leave Twitter alone, and find something to do to get through the rough spot. It would be easier if I drank, or had some other mind altering vice (Ben and Jerry's doesn't count, does it?). I've been embarrassed to talk about my feelings. I figured there's got to be SOMETHING I keep to myself, and don't share with the world. And yet, here I am, writing this blog post. <img src="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)"> Consider it Self Therapy by Blogging.</p>
<p>So I need to ask you a question. Besides all of my own self-loathing issues, I need to be sure of something. I need to know if there's something I can do better, to make some real change come out of all this. So I need you to tell me if you think I'm arrogant, condescending, take credit for things I didn't do, or otherwise behave like a jerk.</p>
<p>I want to know so I can stop doing it, and correct any wrongs that I've done. Not because I'm feeling sorry for myself, and I want you all to pile on. And not because I'm feeling sorry for myself, and I'm fishing for complements and pats-on-the-back to make myself feel better.</p>
<p>I honestly want to know, so I can become a better person. You are my friends, and I value you what you think. if I had spinach in my teeth, I'd want you to tell me. Same thing here. <img src="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)"> </p>
<p>Leave a comment, or drop me an email (<a href="mailto:jabancroft@gmail.com">jabancroft@gmail.com</a>) if you'd rather talk in private. Thanks for listening to me talk about my feelings!</p>
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<p>Today was a rough day for me, emotionally. I guess it all has to do with how much of my life I choose to put on the web - a lot. There's very little that I don't share with the people I'm connected with on the web, via this blog, Twitter, or whatever. But it came back to bite me today, and I'm smarting. I guess it's just an unpleasant result of putting my life online.</p>
<p>Earlier today, I was in a meeting where some people from the marketing group were presenting on what they're doing in the world of social media. Anyone who knows me knows that this is a sensitive topic, because I believe very strongly that there's a right and a wrong way to use social tools for marketing. There were lots of buzzwords flying around in the meeting, and of course, I couldn't resist making <a href="http://twitter.com/jabancroft/statuses/804065704">some snarky comments on Twitter</a>. Some of the other people in the meeting are on Twitter, too, and we started a little bit of backchannel banter on the topic.</p>
<p>The conversation then moved into <a href="http://www.britopian.com/2008/04/30/why-do-conversations-matter-in-social-media/#comments">the comments of a post on Michael Brito's blog</a> (Michael works in the marketing department at Intel), and continued in a pretty heated fashion for the rest of the day (Michel turned off comments on that post a few minutes ago). You can go read the thread yourself, to see what was said.</p>
<p>Now, i can't speak to how anyone else in the thread was feeling, or what they were thinking, so the rest of this post is going to be about my thoughts and feelings. I don't want to put words into anyone else's mouth. </p>
<p>I started out frustrated, and finding it hard to make sense of what I was trying to say. I had a very strong feeling and idea I was trying to communicate (about the right vs. wrong way of marketing, having a human voice, and other crap you can go read about). I felt strongly so I spoke strongly, and at first, it didn't work at all. It seemed that everything I said only make people defensive, raised hackles, and provoked retaliation - comments about how I should look in a mirror, etc. </p>
<p>But, as is usually the case during a debate on a complex and emotionally charged topic, after a while, through thinking about it and talking it out, I felt like I settled on a way to clearly and calmly communicate the point I was trying to make the whole time:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I'm giving you feedback and criticism. I'm not trying to attack you personally, but I'm trying to make a point. I can understand you feeling defensive. I'm saying things that make you uncomfortable. But the reason I'm saying them is not to attack you. I promise.</em></p>
<p>I've been doing this social media stuff since before it was even called that. Years and years. I know how to connect with people and build community. I know how to use those skills in marketing - to build an audience, share information, etc. I know what I'm doing. One of the reasons I'm getting so frustrated is that I wish I'd get a little respect for the things that I know and have done. I'm not the new kid on the block here.</p>
<p>I just noticed something - your voice became human in these comments. You're talking like yourself. You're letting your feelings show through. We're having a conversation.</p>
<p>I know it's hard to preserve that human voice when you go to write a blog post. I struggle with that, too. I always ask myself how can I write this so that it doesn't sound like a press release, or something written by the marketing committee. I don't always succeed. I probably succeed less often than I think I do.</p>
<p>But I try, because I really, truly, fundamentally believe that I should sound like a human when I write. Because I know that if I don't, it's a lot less likely that people are going to want to have a conversation with me. And the reason I write, on my blog, on Twitter, for ISN, or wherever else, is to have those real conversations. To make those real connections with other people. It's what I live for. I believe it's the RIGHT way to market to people - connecting with them with respect, humility, and in my very own human voice.</p>
<p>Another reason I get so frustrated with how Intel and other companies are using/abusing/exploiting social media is that they use the same old command and control techniques, and treat it just like it's another channel or medium for them to deliver their message into my brain.</p>
<p>It's an antagonistic view. The terminology is military, brutal, warlike. Tactics, strategy, campaigns. I am NOT a target. I resent being targeted. I am a human being. Connect with me. Converse with me. I'm telling you how you (collectively) can do that. And I get pissed off when I'm ignored, and still treated like a target or just another set of eyeballs.</p>
<p>Conversations matter because they build relationships. Links between people. And as you build more and more of those links, you start getting something really, really cool and powerful and worthwhile - community. To me, that's the golden ring.</p>
<p>But it's possible to do things that hurt those connections, and thus hurt the community. Talk down to people. Target them. Treat them like nothing more than recipients for the message you want them to get. Don't listen to them.</p>
<p>And on a more subtle level, you can do things that don't necessarily hurt the connections and the community, but don't do anything to build them, either. Things like being boring or uninteresting. Not providing any human surface area for people to connect to.</p>
<p>In my opinion, that middle ground is the most dangerous place to be. It's where we (and I'm definitely including myself) get complacent, lazy, and (yes, I'm going to say it), arrogant.</p>
<p>I'm sorry this whole thing spiraled into whatever it was. It's not fair of me to judge you as a person based solely on what you write on your blog, and I apologize for any offense that was given.</p>
<p>I'd like to get to know you better - to connect with you in a meaningful way. But I'm frustrated because I can't find much human surface area to attach to. It's all business and marketing. So I guess what I've been trying to say, and ask for, is for you to provide me (and others) a little more of your human voice, so we can build a better connection.</p>
<p>Does any of that make sense? Or am I really just crazy, and talking nonsense? I feel that way sometimes</p></blockquote>
<p>I felt calmer after posting that. I felt like I had gotten to the bottom of the argument I was trying to make, and had found a way to say it that hopefully wouldn't be too prickly and raise too many hackles. I was, honestly, feeling like I had accomplished something in the midst of the arguing and debate.</p>
<p>I really felt like I was exposing myself, emotionally, when I wrote that. I was sharing my true feelings, without varnish, without buffer. I've found in the past that putting myself out there like that was scary, but worth it, because if I didn't, I'd be a hypocrite, telling other people to be human and share their real, human voice if I wasn't willing to do it myself. And people are usually respectful, and tend to open up themselves after I've done so.</p>
<p>But this time, it backfired on me, and I got hurt.</p>
<p>In the comments that followed, a coworker that I consider a friend, someone who gets it (and who I don't even want to name here, for fear of appearing like I'm trying to lash back at her or something, which I'm not) had this to say:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Josh, have you ever considered the reason you lack respect is your voice? You come across as condescending when you discuss how you inventedI meandiscovered social media before anyone else. Yes, there must always be a pioneer. And thank you for your efforts in that arena. But noone will take you seriously when you continue to tout your position as social media guru (even if you don't use the words) and talk (or throw around labels like arrogant) at people instead of with people. That's what makes this dialogue so ironic. You're doing exactly what you claim to abhor.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>(Here comes the mushy part where I talk about my feelings - you've been warned!)</p>
<p>It really hurt to read that. I felt almost like I had been physically smacked upside the head. I felt that way partly because it was unexpected - coming from someone I consider a friend, and partly because it made me start thinking maybe she's right - maybe I'm arrogant and condescending and no one has ever bothered to tell me before. No one had ever said something like this to me before. No one had ever stated or implied that I act like I invented social media at Intel. The thought never occurred to me, and I've never tried to be like that. But what if she was right?</p>
<p>I posted a response, talking about Intel's dog eat dog Focal review culture, and how if I didn't take credit for things I had done, no one else was going to give me that credit. But that's not what I was really thinking about</p>
<p>Now, I mentioned earlier that there are very few personal details of my life that I don't share on the web. My life is pretty much an open book. But one thing I've never really talked about online is how I've always struggled with my sense of self worth. Or rather, than I have a very persistent, severe tendency to get down on myself, to start thinking that I'm not doing anything right, and feeling like I'm not worth anything. Yes, I've sought professional help. I feel like I generally keep these feelings under control, but they're always there, under the surface, and I don't know what it was about today - the passionate nature of the people involved, or my own strong feelings on the topic, but once I read those words, I couldn't think of anything else. </p>
<p>Usually, when I get like this, I just withdraw from my online life - I stop blogging, leave Twitter alone, and find something to do to get through the rough spot. It would be easier if I drank, or had some other mind altering vice (Ben and Jerry's doesn't count, does it?). I've been embarrassed to talk about my feelings. I figured there's got to be SOMETHING I keep to myself, and don't share with the world. And yet, here I am, writing this blog post. <img src="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)"> Consider it Self Therapy by Blogging.</p>
<p>So I need to ask you a question. Besides all of my own self-loathing issues, I need to be sure of something. I need to know if there's something I can do better, to make some real change come out of all this. So I need you to tell me if you think I'm arrogant, condescending, take credit for things I didn't do, or otherwise behave like a jerk.</p>
<p>I want to know so I can stop doing it, and correct any wrongs that I've done. Not because I'm feeling sorry for myself, and I want you all to pile on. And not because I'm feeling sorry for myself, and I'm fishing for complements and pats-on-the-back to make myself feel better.</p>
<p>I honestly want to know, so I can become a better person. You are my friends, and I value you what you think. if I had spinach in my teeth, I'd want you to tell me. Same thing here. <img src="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)"> </p>
<p>Leave a comment, or drop me an email (<a href="mailto:jabancroft@gmail.com">jabancroft@gmail.com</a>) if you'd rather talk in private. Thanks for listening to me talk about my feelings!</p>
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         <title>Arrington Finally Makes It Onto The Cover of Time (If You Squint Real Hard You'll See Him)</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/time-100-big.png" title="time-100-big.png"><img src="http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/time-100-small.png" alt="time-100-small.png"></a><em>Time</em> magazine has come out with its annual list of the <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/0,28757,1733748,00.html">100 Most Influential People in the World</a>.  You've got your Tony Blair, Rupert Murdoch, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg.  All the usual suspects.  Digg CEO Jay Adelson squeezes onto the list, as does our own Michael Arrington as the token blogger.  (See <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/completelist/0,,1733748,00.html">full list here).</a></p>
<p>The way the list is put together is that <em>Time</em> tries to get one famous person to write about another. So you have <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733754_1735207,00.html">Craig Newmark on Zuckerberg</a>, <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733758_1736191,00.html">Guy Kawasaki on Steve Ballmer,</a> and <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733758_1735848,00.html">Arianna Huffington on Arrington</a> (how apropos). </p>
<p>Congratulations to one and all. Can you find Michael on the cover at right?  (Click to enlarge).  Neither could I at first, but he's there.  Hint:  Look for the profile in silhouette. At least, I think that's him. </p>
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<p>The way the list is put together is that <em>Time</em> tries to get one famous person to write about another. So you have <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733754_1735207,00.html">Craig Newmark on Zuckerberg</a>, <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733758_1736191,00.html">Guy Kawasaki on Steve Ballmer,</a> and <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1733748_1733758_1735848,00.html">Arianna Huffington on Arrington</a> (how apropos). </p>
<p>Congratulations to one and all. Can you find Michael on the cover at right?  (Click to enlarge).  Neither could I at first, but he's there.  Hint:  Look for the profile in silhouette. At least, I think that's him. </p>
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         <title>What are the Best/Worst Remixes of Public Domain Works?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My new project involves examining legal protections for the public domain under United States copyright law.  There's a doctrinal component to that  <em>what does the law say?</em>  as well as a normative component  <em>why should we care?</em>  It's that latter question that I've been noodling around lately.</p>
<p>Anyone who looks for indications that copyright policymakers in the United States (including both Congress and the federal bench) share the belief, held by many legal academics, that a robust public domain is necessary to foster future creative production, is bound to be a little surprised: the evidence is actually fairly equivocal that Congress and the courts actually hold any such view.  Even the language Congress and the courts employ seems, if anything, to be skeptical of the value of the public domain: it's routine to speak of works falling into the public domain, which conjures to mind somebody clutching the ledge of a tall building, hanging on for dear life: <em>quick, that work is about to fall! Won't somebody save it?</em></p>
<p>The broadest judicial recognition of the value of the public domain that I'm aware of comes from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski">Judge Kozinski</a>'s memorable <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/White_v._Samsung_Electronics_America%2C_Inc./En_banc_Opinion#Dissenting_Opinion">dissenting opinion</a> in <em>White v. Samsung Electronics</em>, <a href="http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/989/989.F2d.1512.90-55840.html">989 F.2d 1512</a> (9th Cir. 1993), which wasn't even a copyright case:</p>
<blockquote><p>Overprotecting intellectual property is as harmful as underprotecting it. Creativity is impossible without a rich public domain. Nothing today, likely nothing since we tamed fire, is genuinely new: Culture, like science and technology, grows by accretion, each new creator building on the works of those who came before. Overprotection stifles the very creative forces it's supposed to nurture.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Id.</em> at 1513.  Later, Judge Kozinski continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>To paraphrase only slightly <em>Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co.</em>, 499 U.S. 340 (1991), it may seem unfair that much of the fruit of a creator's labor may be used by others without compensation. But this is not some unforeseen byproduct of our intellectual property system; it is the system's very essence. Intellectual property law assures authors the right to their original expression, but encourages others to build freely on the ideas that underlie it. This result is neither unfair nor unfortunate: It is the means by which intellectual property law advances the progress of science and art. We give authors certain exclusive rights, but in exchange we get a richer public domain. The majority ignores this wise teaching, and all of us are the poorer for it.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Id.</em> at 1517.</p>
<p>I'd like to be able to illustrate Judge Kozinski's point for skeptical colleagues and friends by citing specific examples of particularly noteworthy works of art that are based on public domain source materials  in simplest terms, I'm interested in contemporary remixes of public domain works.  (I appreciate that this is a narrower conception of the influence of the public domain on later creators than Judge Kozinski is actually talking about, but it makes for relatively comprehensible examples.)  So, for example, we might say that <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Story">West Side Story</a></em> is thought to be a pretty effective transformation of <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_and_Juliet">Romeo and Juliet</a></em>: it takes Shakespeare's public domain play and makes of it something new, different, and by some measures at least, better.</p>
<p>The problem, of course, is that many remixes don't remotely improve on the artistic value of the original.  I've yet to meet anyone <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Utilitarianism#Chapter_2:_What_Utilitarianism_Is">competently acquainted with both</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad"><em>The Iliad</em></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_%28film%29"><em>Troy</em></a> who sees much worth in the latter.  (Which is not to say that a dynamite modern retelling of <em>The Iliad</em> couldn't be written; one of my old <a href="http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/english/faculty/profiles/adams-michael-w.html">English profs</a>, among others, has <a href="http://www.biblio.com/books/50587591.html">done so</a>.)  I was <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarmstro99/287265761/">a kid</a> during the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco">disco era</a>, during which it seemed like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fifth_of_Beethoven"><em>A Fifth of Beethoven</em></a> was playing constantly; but that work, too, has not exactly held its own against <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._5_%28Beethoven%29">the better-known public domain original</a>.  And you can probably think of others.</p>
<p>What are your nominees for the best/worst remixes of public domain works?</p><br><br>Tags: <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/domain">domain</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/domain"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/domain.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/public">public</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/public"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/public.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/works">works</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/works"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/works.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/property">property</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/property"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/property.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyg/law">law</a> <a href="http://www.technorati.com/tag/law"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/technorati.gif" border="0"></a><a href="http://www.croncast.com/keyrssg/law.rss"><img src="http://www.croncast.com/images/c4_rss_tiny.jpg" border="0"></a>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My new project involves examining legal protections for the public domain under United States copyright law.  There's a doctrinal component to that  <em>what does the law say?</em>  as well as a normative component  <em>why should we care?</em>  It's that latter question that I've been noodling around lately.</p>
<p>Anyone who looks for indications that copyright policymakers in the United States (including both Congress and the federal bench) share the belief, held by many legal academics, that a robust public domain is necessary to foster future creative production, is bound to be a little surprised: the evidence is actually fairly equivocal that Congress and the courts actually hold any such view.  Even the language Congress and the courts employ seems, if anything, to be skeptical of the value of the public domain: it's routine to speak of works falling into the public domain, which conjures to mind somebody clutching the ledge of a tall building, hanging on for dear life: <em>quick, that work is about to fall! Won't somebody save it?</em></p>
<p>The broadest judicial recognition of the value of the public domain that I'm aware of comes from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski">Judge Kozinski</a>'s memorable <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/White_v._Samsung_Electronics_America%2C_Inc./En_banc_Opinion#Dissenting_Opinion">dissenting opinion</a> in <em>White v. Samsung Electronics</em>, <a href="http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/989/989.F2d.1512.90-55840.html">989 F.2d 1512</a> (9th Cir. 1993), which wasn't even a copyright case:</p>
<blockquote><p>Overprotecting intellectual property is as harmful as underprotecting it. Creativity is impossible without a rich public domain. Nothing today, likely nothing since we tamed fire, is genuinely new: Culture, like science and technology, grows by accretion, each new creator building on the works of those who came before. Overprotection stifles the very creative forces it's supposed to nurture.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Id.</em> at 1513.  Later, Judge Kozinski continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>To paraphrase only slightly <em>Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co.</em>, 499 U.S. 340 (1991), it may seem unfair that much of the fruit of a creator's labor may be used by others without compensation. But this is not some unforeseen byproduct of our intellectual property system; it is the system's very essence. Intellectual property law assures authors the right to their original expression, but encourages others to build freely on the ideas that underlie it. This result is neither unfair nor unfortunate: It is the means by which intellectual property law advances the progress of science and art. We give authors certain exclusive rights, but in exchange we get a richer public domain. The majority ignores this wise teaching, and all of us are the poorer for it.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Id.</em> at 1517.</p>
<p>I'd like to be able to illustrate Judge Kozinski's point for skeptical colleagues and friends by citing specific examples of particularly noteworthy works of art that are based on public domain source materials  in simplest terms, I'm interested in contemporary remixes of public domain works.  (I appreciate that this is a narrower conception of the influence of the public domain on later creators than Judge Kozinski is actually talking about, but it makes for relatively comprehensible examples.)  So, for example, we might say that <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Story">West Side Story</a></em> is thought to be a pretty effective transformation of <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_and_Juliet">Romeo and Juliet</a></em>: it takes Shakespeare's public domain play and makes of it something new, different, and by some measures at least, better.</p>
<p>The problem, of course, is that many remixes don't remotely improve on the artistic value of the original.  I've yet to meet anyone <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Utilitarianism#Chapter_2:_What_Utilitarianism_Is">competently acquainted with both</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad"><em>The Iliad</em></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_%28film%29"><em>Troy</em></a> who sees much worth in the latter.  (Which is not to say that a dynamite modern retelling of <em>The Iliad</em> couldn't be written; one of my old <a href="http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/english/faculty/profiles/adams-michael-w.html">English profs</a>, among others, has