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Added on 06/08/07 by
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The following is a comment that I left for Dave Slusher regarding his podcast from yesterday lambasting me on "podcasting day job" from a presentation that I gave in 2006. It is waiting approval at his site, and in case it doesn't meet the specs I thought I would post it to the public here. To hear what I am writing about you can download it and listen to 20:40 - 24:50.
I usually don't respond to this type of stuff but this deserves another perspective . . . like one from me, the guy in question. Thanks to the friend that pointed this out. He also rips Scoble, so I am in good company.
My comment:
Okay, where do I begin. Dave, you and I are not strangers. We know each other from podcasting and have spoken on more than one occasion. We've both been at this podcast thing for a long time, you since Aug '04 and me since Nov '04, we've both got some perspective.
I respect your thoughts on my presentation, but I don't agree with you.
The presentation in question, "Leveraging your knowledge as a successful podcasting consultant" from PME 2006 was based on sharing my experience working for clients to produce podcasts from my basement. It was to help give a framework to those who wanted to make some extra bucks. Shit, I even give out my own business template for pricing and structure to those who attended and to those still asking for it.
Success, for me has been doing what I love, audio production, writing code and using my creativity in projects that pay me. Would you have me buy the argument that only "real" creativity comes from the absence of greenbacks?
In February of 2005 I opened my consulting company and two weeks later I had MTV as a client. Was it also bad that in my presentation I shared how I lost them as a client? Maybe the fact that I recommend to podcasters that they should talk to a business attorney and an IP attorney so that they can avoid pitfalls like libel or onerous contracts?
In my life, I too am trying to save for retirement, college for the kids and a safety net. If I can make a buck podcasting for other people . . . big or small to put toward them by making podcasting my day job it doesn't feel like I am punching the clock. It might mean that I am working "just another shit job" in my basement. However, it doesn't feel like a shit job. It feels like I am doing something that I love. That should account for something in the personal satisfaction category, I rank this job a 1.
You and I simply differ on how to make money podcasting. You like the advertising/sponsorship model and I prefer to both produce my own personal podcast and use my skills to make works for other people. My personal podcast has been delivered 3 times a week for 2 1/2 years with my wife every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Want to question my passion for podcasting?
On this, I'm not asking to debate this topic but simply recommending that if anyone is interested to hear the presentation in question head over to http://pa.gigavox.com/ and look for big goatee and bald head for the right session.
The bottom line for me is this is what someone who enjoyed both of our sessions had to say about them:
"Dave Slusher from Evil Genius Chronicles. When he speaks, I’m there."
"Kris with Palegroove Studios gave the most honest, non sales pitch presentation on podcast consulting. He shared real world numbers, which is rare in this day and age."
Given our interactions in the past a comment about me like this shouldn't surprise me but as one podcaster to another, I'm sorry that you need to . . . wait, someone is asking for another mocha something, biab.
Back, I'll let the public decide if I am an evil prick trying to destroy "podcasting" by taking corporate money to work a shitty day job doing what I love from the comfort of my own home or if I got lucky and found a way for myself to make a living for family and our futures doing what I love from the comfort of my home . . . at my day job.
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I wasn't aware that Dave Slusher still produces a podcast...guess I learned something new today...
Kris, I thought your PME 2006 presentation kicked ass - thanks for making it available.
Croncast remains one of my favorite podcasts - best wishes to you, Betsy, and the kids!
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Posted by: Richie Carey
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3:30pm 06/08/2007 |
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Thanks man. Good to hear from you Richie, it's been a while. Hope all is well.
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Posted by: Kris
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5:05pm 06/08/2007 |
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Richie, OUCH! Was that a burn?
Kris, I responded on my blog. I think you might be overinterpreting what I said. I don't think you are doing anything wrong, and I'm glad you dig doing it. I sure wouldn't want to do it, and that's what my whole show was about. It was my take on the idea, which is ALL MY SHOW EVER IS. I have no access to larger moral truth, I'm just a schmoe trying to see things from here on the ground.
I'm sorry if I caused you consternation, because I personally dig you, you big lug.
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Posted by: Dave
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6:44pm 06/08/2007 |
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Nice to see that there's a conversation going with you two. Both highly respected in my book.
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
At least there was a few minutes between "new media blueballs" and day jobs....
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Posted by: markx
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8:35am 06/11/2007 |
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I did hear that podcast and I admit his approach was kinda harsh to the topic. I think he believes if there is any level at which you wouldnt already be doing that exact thing, its still a job. I think you have a great point in that it is more specifically what you enjoy doing then say me liking computers and doing Financial reporting at an oil company. I commend you on finding something a passion that can support you. Sure, there are the challeneges from time to time, but at the end of the day would you rather do creative, unique work? Or report financaials and reserves for an oil company. I know I'd rather have the first.
Keep on tearing up the pod waves you two!
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Posted by: paymepunk
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10:07am 06/21/2007 |
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